Episode 5 - Just Another Manic Maddy Transcript
00:00 Hello. You for Ian's, she's Beauty and she's Grace. She's Miss United fucking States. Maddie Perez R, queen of spill and chili and get in silly calling out, cyber moms and drop and see bombs this episode. We truly get the full scoop on that his upbringing, her toxic relationship with Nate and her ability to win our hearts to spite her complicated character traits. We are chomping at the bit to pour this to you. So grab your drinks, or your blood. If you're still celebrating
00:31 420, and let's get euphoric.
01:10 Hello everyone. We're back. We are back in action and nothing in our personal life has changed. We are still living day to day in this quarantine. I think everyone can relate right? Alex. Like am I right? I mean, I don't know if everyone can relate but people in New York definitely can yeah, like Korea and Italy. Yeah. I just mean like our life right now is very Monday and like day-to-day like we're having a lot of fun, but like nothing like exciting life. Has happened this
01:40 week. No. No, not really. I sleep. Racking my brain trying to think of something, but like, there's literally nothing. Oh, we do have, we got some new listeners from some new countries. We got people from Brazil, Bolivia and Brazil. Wait, Kuwait. You Can Count love it. Canada. The list, just keeps growing saying this International representation. It's great. We really are so excited and we just so well, we can't say Enough, we truly
02:10 are appreciating our listeners. Like you all are the fucking bastard. Dion's, you're like Insight your feedback. Incredible. We don't have a bathroom decide, like this has been such a good experience. So like, please keep sharing the word though, like it is so I can't express this more. This is like the most important thing to stay on top of is euphoric News until season 2 is released. I mean, we all I think if you're listening like, you can relate like, this is so important. So, like make sure you share it with your friends, family, your pets. Whatever. Like yeah,
02:41 whatever. Just listen, I'm like joint. Join him. Yes Community. It's so great. But you know what, even though our lives have been so fucking boring. It definitely has not been boring this week in the euphoric world. That's what the updates. The updates will all you. Take it away because we have a huge update on a possible, new cast member for season two. Like it's not confirmed, but it's yes. Yeah. K Harrison. Junior. Calvin Harris. Yeah, Calvin Harris, not Calvin. Harris. K Harrison, Junior. Who? Who starred in
03:11 an a24 movie called waves with, Alexa and Alexa, Danny that came out over the summer, which by the way, plug, if you're bored during quarantine, like that is a really great film. It's kind of deep and weird, but it's good. If you like Euphoria, you would probably like, waves, the main character and his father are like a slightly less awful version of Nate and his dad. Yeah, Peyton Cal Channel. Anyways, the queen this boy Calvin Harrison. Jr. Has just been allegedly confirmed for see. Into playing an unknown
03:41 character. So, oh my God. Are we gonna do casting for the new season? Do you think I'd be so odd if she ended up being like Alexa dummy, Maddie Perez is like new Lovin, like maybe needs out the door and then it's like her and this guy what's his name? Calvin? Harrison K Harrison jr. Calvin Harrison jr. I feel like they had such good chemistry in the last movie. Like maybe they're like perfect. We don't have to do like the extra legwork, like, they already work. Let's put them in maybe. Be he played a football player in the movie.
04:11 So maybe he's playing a private school football player, or maybe he's like a rival to MacKay weenies like college boys. Maybe he's the new hotshot on the team when McKay should be like getting the like the position. That's absolutely coming in hot. Yeah. Or ball skills or picture this, like Cathy Ann McKay or Cassie. Invites Maddie to like a College summer fraternity party and she meets him there. Yeah, maybe I can see it. Stevie, Dee possibilities. Everyone's just the riving though. And in the euphoric world,
04:41 we have mod Apatow. I love pronouncing her name that way. I don't know why, but she's in a new series coming out Hollywood. I really, I'll just be completely honest. Like, I haven't done my research. I don't know what the fuck the shows about, but anything she does, like we stand. I would, I would watch anything. She was in, watch it on Netflix. Tell us, tell us, it's not where it's being released. Yeah, that's Alex. Yeah, that's fucking perfect. Well, it's Ring released soon or know ya next week. That's God next video week. Oh my god. Well, then we'll watch. We'll review a little bit. Maybe
05:11 Alex, we have nothing to do. I will watch that. She also she was on Instagram this week with a matching shirt with look at which a our cat wears a shirt for a good reason. But he wears a shirt so I can relate. But also they were wearing Marine Center, which is a designer. We both really like. Yeah. That designers bombed-out out to mod appetizer. I really love her. She actually is a crazy cat lady. So I'm like, I fully stand her outside of her role as Lexi. Then we have some exciting. News with our main girls
05:41 and Daya. She is like she's always thriving but now she's like, really driving. But Alex has more of a Sci-Fi background. So I'm gonna let him take it over on this Alex here, Seminole, State on Zendaya. They release pictures from the new film Dune, which is coming out soon. It's God, Zendaya, it's got Timothy. Sha'lame. It's got Josh Brolin. It's got some other people citing. I don't think it looks very good. But The 31-day ever being in like a major
06:12 Hollywood. This is gonna be a big deal. This is a two-part. Epic poet is directed by its from. Yeah. It's based on. It's a sci-fi movie. It's based on like this legendary series of books. They adapted at once. Other one, other time in the 80s, David Lynch, did it. It turned out really bad. You see it in a final cut in the Studio's, fucked it up. He hated it and he never did a big Studio Movie. I had no clue. David Lynch that that. Yeah. And sting was in it and thing also, my God, no wonder. It was all my boys. Arizona did sing sing. It is our that song. You
06:42 know, he doesn't say, you know, unrelated to do. He plays like a crazy redheaded knife fighter shit, but that would be a little bit sting an actor, but that movies fucking bizarre and not that good. It's like, okay, but it's really funny thing. It looks bad. So, I think the new one looks bad because Dune is set like far. A far away and in like weirdo space
07:12 and it's like a, it's a classic like politics like Space Opera thing, but it's has no relation to Earth. But everything all the stills from the Dune, they just released nothing. Looks like weird and alien it all. Looks like, just like regular Earth shit. I gotta look like Phantom Menace. I literally thought it looked like Star Wars. The Phantom Menace. Yeah, like it in the desert. What's the desert Planet? Well, they're in there on a desert planet in this movie. It's happening, but they're on a desert planet in the savvy. So it's less the like planets. It's more than Costumes feel very like grounded in like
07:43 Earth shit. They feel like a little. They feel very real. Whereas like are you like? I'm hoping it's good but it looks bad. I don't know. I don't think it looks bad. But based on like the aesthetic that the guys going for like, Dune should be really weird and alien feeling and I'm trying to get more modern. Yeah. It's looking like it's very it's a little more like realistic which is weird for like a space epic which I guess like putting all things aside and I'll You know, all of our criticism aside, all we care about is that Zendaya is thriving.
08:13 Like I mean as far as like, our euphoric podcast has like great for her. She's probably making mad money on this. On the other hand. We could suck the like shoes walking home with a fat check to take to the ATM directed by Denis Villeneuve, who has like a pretty good track record. Like it also has it on. He did enemy with Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, yeah. I really like the new Blade Runner but Runner twenty point nine, which is pretty good. Okay, so good. Had he did a rival which is very good. Was really good.
08:43 So, you know what? So, you know, we'll see. Yeah, who knows? I mean, that's still really cool. I'm I would definitely go see it 100%. Yeah. Oh, I'm for sure. Gonna see ya. We'll see it. I mean, he recited good jobs and day. Like, great job her resume. I don't want to do for other resume, just keeps building. I'm so proud of them. So then we have a really funny like light-hearted story here. We've got our girl said, nice weenies. Shout out. We just adore you but also like love. She was just literally making fun of herself. Like this is some shit I would do like, well, I wouldn't
09:13 work out. So never mind. This is not what I would do because I don't Fitness just doesn't it just doesn't exist in my life. Sadly. But like she's out there running. I mean, she's got that great body. She's out there running and the she know they're always hounded by these dumb Paparazzi. So she got all these photos of her but she was pretty much like, making fun of herself because like she's picking a wedgie in one photo, which I can really do. I think my wife is all the time and I was like so embarrassed. But like she's picking her what you like flat out in front of the paps, then she Actually can pick that wedgie. And I know she's still it's hot. It's like how does Sandy Sweeney's? Still look
09:43 hot. Picking a fucking wedgie? Like she got that ass but like not not just that like she just like is Flawless. She's really a beautiful girl. So Cindy like my God, I mean, I know girl crush over Anna. I do. But also like Sydney. I know you're out jogging or like exposing those pics, but trying to be funny but like girl, you look great like good for you. So she's obviously doing great during quarantine. She's just thriving. But I thought it was funny. She was like, comparing her photos to her. Dog and her dog. She was saying her dog. With better tank is really cute. But, like, trust
10:13 me Sydney. He looked great. Then the only other like, funny Euphoria story, we have for you outside of the show. Is Tristan, who plays? Who knows? We don't know. It's either Troy. Even honestly course. I know. I don't know. Maybe I should do the research and just find out, it's not that hard unknown, right? I can just type in his name and find out but I don't want to, I kind of like the mystery like is here, or is he? It's like Full House. If one twins kind of having a bad day or is like hungry during the season, like we can't
10:44 use you like you're a little too grumpy right now. We need someone that's like gonna perform. Well, they pick one of the other. Do you think that actually like it seems like they could do that because they don't really make any differentiation and their personalities. Yeah, exactly. So if one's a little tired, they're like, hey Tristan get over here like you're in this park Justin's brother, come here. Yeah, exactly. But anyways, he did insta live, who isn't it's quarantine. Everyone's bored as fuck. He did an insta live. I was like, so excited. We're on our podcast account. I'm like here. Ready to ask the hard-hitting
11:14 questions. Because Roy, and we're like some of our favorite characters to make fun of. I'm here, like ready and his insta live was just a hot mess. He kept pausing again like cutting out, then it got to a point where it was absolute technical difficult. I know we can all relate to I know, but it was funny because it kept looping, he was doing a live, he accepted a request from. I think it was a fan it had to because I don't know who the fuck it. As it was a fan and she kept repeating the same line over and over again. I should have read it downloads. It was so funny.
11:44 But all the fans were going off. They were like, oh, this is the worst I've ever liked. It sounds like a remix. The girl keeps saying the same shit. It just kept looping because it was on pot. Yeah, so it's funny. So Tristan listen, like, we'd love to have you on the progress. I want to know, like, what happened. Did you drop your phone like broke or like what happened? During that installation? If you want to redeem yourself from your technical difficulties, like we'll get our in-house. It experts. I pick you up. We'll make sure the Connection is strong. Yes, we'll send you a bottle of cook so you can drink with us while we're doing the podcast.
12:14 Like I'm telling you we will hook it up. So we would love to hear from you. Like we stand everyone on the show like we're here. Anyways, I think it's time to first of all, obviously, Deep dive into the episode, but also in this episode. Our favorite champagne is once again brought up makes its big debut its Cooks. So, you know what? Alex bought a bottle. We had a one shopping trip of the month. This was the Top of our list was cook champagne, so that we could pop it over the podcast. Mike pour ourselves. A little
12:44 glass of champagne before we start the episode. So Alex I'm gonna stay quiet so we can hear. Just let we can hear the perfect pop of a kook. Champagne pop of my knuckle. It's coming. Oh, that is orgasmic. I should have said that to you for. I got that's hot. That's euphoric. It's all the above. So I laughs is pointing us a glass of champagne. I think it's important to just like lay it out. I mean, we have a
13:14 lot to talk about today this episode to be fair. We were joking. Like it's definitely not as funny as the other episodes. We've been recapping like it was kind of, it wasn't hard to find the funny things to talk about. But Maddie and Nate's relationship is so fun. That it's hard to like make fun of it because it's so serious. Yeah, I mean last week's episode was hypothetically a downer but we still found a lot of stuff to make 5 also with sewing. Some are wait. Let me hear the physic. Wait to hear it. Oh my God, that sounds beautiful.
13:45 It's a beautiful South. Probably one of my favorite sounds in the world that anyone honestly, I feel like, maybe, you know what? I just had an idea. It'd be really funny for our next giveaway. If we get to like 300 followers. We send someone a bottle of cooks. Oh, but you have to be of a jumbo Cooks. That's hardly. We don't know if there are beige. Okay, scratch that that might not work, but you know what? It's a thought. Well anyways, let's start. Cheers Alex. That's so you for episode 5 episode episode 5, we go so much, so much to go over here. All right, fine. Entitled 03, Bonnie and Clyde.
14:15 Yes, yet another episode named after a 2000s, late 90s, hip-hop song again, not used in the episode, which that's that's a Jay-Z and Beyonce song from the early days when they were kind of like are they together? Are they not that? Love it? It's a great. It's a great hit. You know, it's really great and funny video. So, we got this amazing intro to Maddie's life and all of us ladies in. In boys, I'm sure love Maddie. I
14:45 mean meaning we love her as like her. We love her style. She's definitely the most. Like, I don't know, what don't worry about love Maddie. I've been current Jewels though. Our top top of the tier in terms of like style and looks meaning, like they're the most iconic. I would agree with. So I'm not saying I'm not at all. I'm wiping personality, I'm saying. Maddie is definitely like someone that like for Halloween, you dress up as yes, he's below. She's right below Jewels. Yeah. She's an icon. So we kind of got her upbringing which is really interesting. To be honest, I would not Peg Maddie as a pageant girl,
15:15 but we get this whole intro of her being this dramatic. Pageant girl, Alex. Loved the intro because he, he thinks he can like sing it so well, it's a Madonna song, It's a classic but stop, right? Oh my God. First us. I don't even know if those are the words. It's a great song. It wasn't for sure. The word it would be song of the week if it weren't for, in addition in the Madonna's rolling over her rolling over in her bed. Not her grave. Yeah, she's Souls quarantine. But
15:46 Maddie is just like, honestly, I have to first and foremost a shout out to our lovely euphoric makeup artist. I'm going to butcher the name. I'll just take it away. It's done. Yella, Daniela. Don't yeled ABI doing baby DAV? Why? Yeah, Davey. Okay. She is an absolute. Genius. Maddie's makeup. I mean, honestly, I was joking with Alex before we recorded this. It is so hard to do makeup a just in general.
16:16 Like for me. It's an absolute tragedy when I try to do someone's makeup. But to do a little girls makeup, like those little tiny eyelids, like top do all those little rhinestones. I mean, oh my God, I can't even imagine. You'd have to be like so fucking good at what you do. So I give her absolute praise. Every single one of Maddie's looks and its opening scene is fire and there are so many makeup looks. There's like, I don't know over 30 like there really is everything. She's has a different look that's like absolutely Saying. Also thought it was funny. I did a little bit of research into Maddie's
16:46 makeup in this episode and I thought this was kind of like, interesting, Sam levenson, the Creator and director. Apparently, he's a YouTube makeup fanatic. He like loves watching makeup seems like such as YouTube torture tutorials. Did to the like that's so cute. I love that because that that goes to show that like, I love a director that's involved. Like he wasn't just like, oh ladies like work on the makeup. He was like no. Like I know this shit like bring her out like I want to winged eyeliner. Like he knows, his turn likes his makeup. She literally called
17:16 it out tutorials. Don't ya? Call them out and said, like he knows his shit like he was like, literally like yes, I like that. But can we add this? So he was actually like involved. Yeah, which I love, that's cool. I appreciate the attention to detail. Also that was an Allure magazine, an article. It was actually a really good one. I'll probably link it in our insert. If you want to revisit. It has a lot of really cool shit about their makeup. Also, also while we're on the subject of make up the other night Paige, and I were having a little bit of like, Like a late night, drinking listening to music
17:47 session watching music videos, and Paige, put on an old CR and I'm Stanger. See only from maybe like 2003. I don't know. What's up with the name of the song. Oh God. It's like shut. It can't handle this dude. Yeah, whatever, featuring Ludacris. But yeah, featuring Ludacris hot. Damn. We were both shook while watching this video because most like many of Maddie's makeup looks are Did straight from this video. Like Ciara has the rhinestones
18:17 in the part of her hair? She has the rhinestones around the eyebrows all the way around the eyes like a full look like they basically not like in a bad way, but they definitely like lifted it straight from this video or do you think I mean, I would love to ask the makeup artist. We once again, we'll take anyone on the podcast, but I would absolutely love to talk to them. They're actually like at the top of my list because only take anymore, we have standards patch we do. But I'm saying I absolutely adore them. I'm Billy. Like so smart and creative and they're really fun on Instagram and all of our fans.
18:47 I'm sure already follow. But like, they're just amazing and I would love to get their insight and I would like to know if they've seen the CRM music video and they were like, wow, this is Maddie. I think they must have. I mean, it's like very is a very, like, direct. It seems like a direct reference. I don't think they like stole it, but it seems like this is like they were directly referencing this video. And I also it plays into like the larger theme wear. Like, probably the if you were to pick like one, Three direct aesthetic Inspirations for Euphoria like
19:17 late 90s early 2000s. Hip-hop is obviously a very strong one. There is an episode titles clothing music till they're close. Yep. And so, this fits very nicely in with that like, overall influence totally. But yeah, the makeup is fire. I'm totally here for it. Maddie is just I think her makeup definitely like dominates other than Jewels. So anyways, moving on like she's a pageant girl II took a note and I literally It was like pageant girl. I don't get it. But also it's so a Kyle said, I had a long
19:48 conversation about those like pageants. I just I can't stand a pageant girl. I can't like I'm not here for it. I think it's like so I'm just going to say it. It's fucking stupid. Like it's so dumb. Like it's literally like you're just, it's like, okay to me. It is the equivalent like, joining a sorority. It's like you're literally be judging your looks on your most shallow, like talents and skills. It's not any Just nothing. It's like to me. It's nothing. It's talentless. It's well, and it's I mean, it has a long history
20:18 rooted in, just like then judging women. It's very like, traditionally like misogynistic and they've tried to update it over the years and bring in, like, more female judges and they try to ask more like intellectual questions, but at its core, it's still a contest about judging women and, like, regardless of who's judging, like, you're still judging against pretty traditional, like standards. And it's still like, It's wax. They've tried to like updated but it's just not gonna work because you're still
20:48 parading women out on stage like cattle and then judging them which is like who the fuck is still like participating. And I just want to know in 2020 like who the fuck is still doing pageants? So weird pageants did give us one of the best moments in like internet viral video history, which is the Lancer. The geography country girl that said the Iraq and then we had like the long rambling cringes at what it actually was. Yeah, another said the Iraq. Yeah, she's gonna be a rack. What was she answering? We should have thought I was. Its
21:18 wool. Blanket will put it in the, in the Instagram, but they were our friends might not know about that. It was, it was a long time ago, right? Yeah. It was like, 2005. Maybe we should blast that out. But anyways, I'm just not here for pageants. I don't stand it. I think it's disgusting. So I thought I thought it was kind of weird, but also kind of makes sense because Maddie's like projecting that she's always been quote on quote, confident through, you know, through her. Childhood. So then we got Maddie. We got a little idea of like why Maddie's kind of like
21:49 I'm just kind of here to do nothing and interesting. I don't know. Like what is your take on this? I mean, there's a lot, we kind of unpacked it earlier, but I feel like it's strange because Maddie is such a lovable character, but also such a, you just want to like love and hate her. Like, she really has so many qualities are so gross. Kind of like Nate, like she's not a good friend. She's really not a good girlfriend. She's Banging other guys. Like she acts, like she loves Nate. That's obviously a lie. She's Bangin. Like every dude it was side, which is fine.
22:19 You go girl, but like don't pretend like you live this whole facade and then I don't know. I just, I don't think she's it's very hard to hate her, but it's also really hard to love her. That's my take on Maddie. Yeah. She's a frustrating character because she's she's kind of like she's complex'. She's has she's very contradictory. So there's shallow. I was just going to say it. She is complex. She has a lot of layers to me and you get up. I mean, she is very shallow in certain senses, but she's not, but I think she's pretty smart
22:50 interesting. I think she's just calculated. Really, what is in, what way? What is she doing? Tyler? What actions have date in the show? That's calcul. She does certain things that are very kind. But that's the most base. Like, that doesn't take any calculation. If you want to piss a guy you're dating off you fucking other guy. That's like, is like basic and Primal as it gets, that's like caveman shit. That's not All right. I just it's hard. I read. I don't think I will not hear them. Like say like she's stupid, but I don't think she's like necessarily the smartest
23:21 character on the show. And I would never look to her think she's smarter than she makes it out to be. I think she's smarter than she's letting off, and I think in season 2 will learn more. I don't know. That's my thoughts will see in this episode. She is not particularly, but in, I think she has this like Epiphany when she's little basically that you can do nothing with your life and B6. She's just like like I want to do nothing with my life, but she wants to do nothing and she wants success from it and she wants the best life by doing
23:51 nothing. Essentially. She wants the life of like a real housewife who's married. Her husband doesn't have to do anything. Yeah, and I think that this like this idolatry of like doing nothing brings to light kind of like why she's this like character your so mixed about because she has these moments where she's really fiery and passionate about stuff and you're like, yeah, get it girl. And then like she but she also has this like bass like Primal interest in just doing fucking nothing which is like
24:21 not particularly like something that we're all going to like look up to. And most of the time when she's being like really lame in the show or being really shitty or whatever. It's because she's just being like inactive she's being passive. She's just letting like Nate be a dickhead. She's letting Nate like accused Tyler of rape like whatever. It's usually when she's being really shitty. It's usually because she's just doing nothing. She's not being. Friend or friends like whatever. So, that's the kind of like, you see, kind of why she has like these two sides. You don't really get a sense
24:51 for why she has that fiery side, but it seems like, that's just kind of natural to her. I told you why. I think though, I said earlier, when we were talking about Maddie and death. I said, I think the reason she gets so fiery and had these moments where we're like, yes girl, like when she knocks over the chili and calls them on the cont. It's like, you know what? Maddie, I think from her home life. We see, like, she's constantly listening to her parents fight. Right. It's got to be like really tough as a high schooler to come home and have to deal with that. Like your dad little dribbling vomit on his chest, like a total drunk, not doing anything, your
25:21 mommy, screaming at you, for no reason. She's mad at the husband. It's a lot. I think, emotionally for a high schooler de s. So, I think, for her those moments where she pops, my guess, is that she's holding it a lot of like, emotion from that. And then those moments are the perfect time to just like pop and she might not be conscious of it. I don't think it's calculate or anything like that. I just think like that's very natural for someone. Who holds in a lot to just kind of like explode. So, I think those moments where she does explode and more like, yes, girl. I don't really think she's like that confident. I think it just
25:51 comes from a place of like snapping almost that's possible. Her confidence. She says submissive like you said she does not fall the rest of the time. Yeah. So like the chili moment like for instance, like when he called her a hooker he was she was just like what? And then like you walked away at the carnival. So it's like it was like built-up anger and then she's at the chili contest and everyone's clapping like creating his family. And she's like, no. Yeah, she pops off. So, I think that makes sense because if she had more of like a sustained continued like confidence, and like badass attitude,
26:21 none of this stuff, whatever happened in the first place. Exactly. So yeah, that makes a lot but we also see some great scenes of Maddie banging other dudes. Yeah, Maddie definitely bangs other dudes and that like She Bangs the roller rink guy. She Bangs the speaker. The DJ who claims the open for Calvin Harris. Yeah some stock broker some like 40 year old have a Calvin Harris. Jr. It was it in this case. It was Calvin Harris. Yeah, I think it's interesting because I mean I think
26:52 I was a little shocked which is strange. I was like Oh, I thought she actually did really like love Nate. Alex was like laughing at me and thought I was naive but like I really thought she was like really in the Nate. So I always laugh because whenever I watch this, I'm like, oh like she's not in love with him. She's definitely just like using him for status. That's it. Yeah, I always read their relationship is very as like a mutual partnership. Ship of like them both being in the classic High School. Like we're both the most popular. So let's like hook up for the popularity and like I always read
27:22 it as that nothing more. No, like romance. Now, I think they're both like obsessed with aspects that like, with maintaining their relationship, but I don't think they love each other. And I think a like this whole, I mean, this whole segment like really says, a lot about that. I mean, they're like, Nate really at one point. The narration says, Nate really love her. I think we All agree, that's not the case. And then it also, the narration reason aeration. Also says she loved Nate, but then the sentence after that says, she
27:52 loved their relationship and I think that says everything you need to know about what she really liked quote loves about Nate, which is not that she loves me. She loves their relationship and like what purpose it serves. Yeah, so I think in this episode despite them both insisting, they love each other. It's very clear. They don't really love each other at all. Yeah. So altogether, I mean I think that wraps up the beginning. Of the episode. We could go on and on about how sickening and Maddie are, but that'll come later. So then we get this great intro. The credits come through. I was joking that it literally reminds
28:22 me of the opening scene of Willy Wonka. It's definitely very Danny, Elfman ask it's like fun. It's loud. It's boisterous like I'm here for it. Got me excited to start the episode then we get into Rue and she's in bed. She's fingering herself, which is like I'm already laughing. I'm like this to me would be the worst. Always and I have to film, like, Zendaya, I give you mad props. I just like, I couldn't do this. I know. Like, that's part of acting whatever, but like, I feel like if
28:52 you're like over-the-top like, uh, we've got two different because you're like, no one was in. The crew is like, oh my God, this is like a lot like you're acting, right? You're going over the top, but when she's just like quietly finger yourself in bed. I'm like so awkward. Well, like do, do you remember telling me I couldn't do it. I just, I mean I could I would do it obviously. She's making big. I mean, I'll show you those later in her like fully closed on the blankets and just kind of like awkward for like a second. Like it doesn't last long. She doesn't even have to look like super seriously
29:22 into it. Like she's absorbed. He just kind of looks like, kind of like awkward for a minute and then her mom, do you think she's really under there pretending to finger yourself? What I mean? That's what do you think she's working for tail until like her like or something? What, what are your questions? She actually fingering herself. Anybody actually be like, oh, you don't think so. I don't think she's finger. Use our method actors. Some would really do it for not for that. Like five seconds. Seems like she's literally doing it for like 5 seconds before the mom busted, like maybe if it was like this big dramatic
29:53 moment where it was like important that it seemed like she really was but I just want to learn unless we talk to Sundy about it. But like it doesn't really matter. She's really great. You ask her that one. Although it is funny. Her mom like storms in. She's like, it's like awkward. Yeah, so I'm not gonna like put you in the hot seat because this is so. Fucking awkward, but like we've all had those meant we have to have all had those moments where like it's a close call. We're like you're in your room, you're masturbating doing, doing your business, whatever you want to call it and
30:23 your business. You gotta wrap a top, top of the door, like, hunting and dinner. You're like, what's up? Well, the rabbits have tap is fine. What's not? Fine? Is the busting them. Come on bust. It is not flat and I was thinking like, back to my high school days. I've no shame. That's never happened to me, my parents, like they just knew better. I think they knew I was a little bit of a wild child. Like they knew to knock did your parents knock before entering any time like, not just like they capitalized in there. Good. Yeah, but did your parents, like, knock and then go in and where they, the type of barged in.
30:53 I've had close calls with the margins, but luckily, like I have a yeah, separated bathroom, closet scenario, supremacism privacy, you don't have to deal with anything. Like, I've never just been like, caught flat out with like, but dong out like, oh my God, I hope not. This is so awkward. We're gonna move on. From this because you know, I don't want to even think about that stuff. Thank God. I was his parents. Anyways, we move on. I put a little note that I thought ruse. Mom did such a good job. Giving
31:23 her a little heart-to-heart about jewels, like wasn't super harsh but was just like listen baby like your fragile. You got to be careful like this is new. She's just like, you know, you've been through a ship time. You bet you've literally oh, didn't you come back in her head? It's like you're doing so well, you're sober like, please don't get too too caught up in. It doesn't work. Her. It's like, she's not even saying like, what Molly? She's eight people in this episode talk to her both ruined Jewels about their relationship and I think ruse mom. Probably handles it. The best and all
31:53 she says is just like take it slow. Exactly, which is probably the best like she. I think she. Yeah, she just handles at the bus. Exactly. So then anything else. So in the south in the spirit of taking it slow they go see ashtray and again tattoos. There are live. Also. I don't know where I read. Those but I know I did the tattoos obviously are not real. They're like little stickers. Look on the inside of the lip out. Some is this about me? I'm really weird. I'm the most
32:23 like, open-minded free-spirited, girl. You'll ever meet in your life. But like, for some reason, tattoos are just like, I just like, I can't needles terrify me. I also just I'm not a permanent person. I don't want anything permanently tattooed on me, but the only thing I've ever said I might get is inside my lip. I want my last name, which is blazer with an Yes, but this is a dollar sign. So I don't blazer with a dollar sign in my upper lip. I might do it. One upper lip are no sorry, lower lip the wrong. My Lord. You have to be like,
32:53 yeah, that'd be discussed. That would be absolutely foul. No, not that you I know you want a tattoo. I'm probably want like two or three tattoos total. Well, this is you're dropping this on me as we're recording our pockets. I thought you only had one that you want line. There's What I know I want that I plan to get within like a year or two, which is a chicken that I draw on my butt a chicken. He literally wants a chicken on his ass
33:23 like but I have that's fine. I cannot write. Is that why? Well, I want the chicken because I've been drawing it my whole life and I love chickens and like my moniker on everything is like chicken related like young chicken and chicken nugget like whatever that's my alternate identity and that chickens great. So I want that on my but I So have like I kind of want like, one of the old like 30s to 50s like Halloween, decoration Bessel, like Halloween cats. I think I've always liked place that you getting one
33:53 of those good cats. All summer to was like the cat with like a top hat and a monocle everything. Maybe meatball. Yeah, probably something meatball related. We have a cat named meatball. I think we've brought it up before, but we have a fat cat named meatball who we adore. He's literally our son, our baby, our Shining Light, he is and the the contender for third tattoo would probably be me. Ball. But I have none yet. Most people assume I do. Okay. Well, you know, that's our thoughts on top. So then we kind of, yeah, of course. Ashtray about that is.
34:23 Yeah, that's really strange since he's like, eight years old. I don't know why he can get tattoos. But because he's a baller, you know, something to everything, he knows how to do. He knows how to work with. The Bitcoin is, how to hustle drugs. He knows how to get tattoos and driving. Then we cut to Cal working out on the, on the construction site like American in the He's got his hard hat and he's talking about angles and would or wouldn't, why is this all I need? What's the holdup? Okay, ever. The only
34:54 the only thing I will say is there's great detailing. His hat has the Cal Jacobs family like construction. Like they were very close to they paid very close attention to detail. That's like his hat. His name, his shirt, his the sign that was outside of the company. I thought, wow, production went really far off of their value. So, Really understand cows, like income. And its job. He like dominates the town. Yeah, he built like half the town or something. I say. So then he gets called the school and he's thinking, obviously that
35:24 it's about him in joules. And Cal is trying to play this off. Like he's a real cool cucumber, but his nerves are not as like not as Steely as he thinks, they are any fucking throws up in the high school bathroom, which is a great. It's a great, like, haha, like moment that is he deserves. I was Calle walking and thinking he is really like This all in Lock and he's mr. Cool. And you can't even handle this shit enough, but I also like I think it's funny because he fucking deserves that because it's like it just proves our Point further that that scene so rapey. Because if you're throwing up in
35:54 a toilet, it's like you fucking know that you fucked a minor. Like, you know, this is bad. This isn't like a hot side sex trip. It's like, this could be considered rape, you could get in trouble. Speaking of which there is a fucking ton of statutory. Rape in Euphoria, there really is and it's not it. To be fair. I'm glad they don't pick it up look so it's kind of boring. We're not trying to be Law and Order SVU here. I mean, I love, I love it. You and I joke that it is and we'll get more into that later. But like we don't need to go into the
36:24 the deck Zoo be a lot of statutory rape, Maddie's like banging a 40 year old and she's like 14. Yeah, cats bang in the Caston. When she's 16 boy. There's a lot Cal's, Bangin, like many, many, many people, Untold numbers. Let's say it's bad. So then we have models is banging. For some we have Maddie entering school, man. Is on her period. It could not be more like honest to God. She's dressed like the Unabomber. She's dressed up the Unabomber. But also like, I've been dressed like the Unabomber all week
36:54 because I've had my period on quarantine. It's absolutely fucking treacherous like, ladies. I just like, I just want to have a moment of silence for us to have to have her period on quarantine, like it is hard. A moment of silence. Okay, maybe God. That's outfit. So good in this. I love the zebra top says baby girl and like onion aquacolor. She got the glasses. She looks very like Matrix almost and she's like walking. I like this one for her. I feel like it fits in the like fits her personality one of the ones where I'm
37:24 like, she's actually like finding her own style and doing something like interesting. Whereas some of them are just like, total bullshit. Totally. I think this is one of the better ones for her Maddie looks rough. I approve, we learn from reading the article in Or magazine about the makeup that they purposely made Maddie extra rough in this which is, they did a great job because she looks rough as hell. Oh, yeah. She's like sweating Shooks clammy. She's got bags under eyes. She does not look. Well. No, and then we get the the return of principal Hayes who's calling in all the all the students
37:54 to question them about the ongoings. Again. Probably some pretty leg botched handling the plane BB moment though. Yeah, even VB knows Nate is gay. BB's there and our Motocross Jersey. Being questioned by principal Hayes and she's like gallic mates. Good Maddie's like pissed about it or whatever. I like how she was like, I'm not gonna answer. So I'll have my lawyer. She's so ratchet. But also like BB. We not her first rodeo. Fucking love BB and also she
38:25 liked one of our posts this week and I literally like I died because I'm like, we need be beyond the podcast. Sophia Rose Wilson. What are you doing, listening? We need you on this pot. I want to ask her. Any funny questions about her character, but anyways, moving on, like we stand be be mad. He's in the office. She's drinking orange, Gatorade out of a straw, good for her. You never want to stain your teeth, drinking Gatorade. So like I'm so fucking happy production him, her strong less of them. It should not get those pearly whites. All right,
38:56 but yeah, everybody's getting called in Jules gets called, in joules. Is looking great. Yeah. She's got her hair. She's now died. The bottom of her hair like purplish and the rest of her hair is very white. It's looking good. It's great. And then we have Lex and Cassie have this really hilarious, Locker conversation. There are three lockers like she's like, whoa, like, did you see what happened to Maddy? Like she's obviously in trouble like Nate, fucking tried to kill her and Cassie's like, oh my God, like or what is she said? She's like, who told you about that? And Lexi's like
39:26 you did, you definitely has about me being gay, not the choking, but I'm not sure, but either way, it's funny because Cassie is forgotten that she was high as shit and told and she obviously told Everyone about everything. Yeah, Vivi knows, like Maxine has a close friend. Everybody knows that total even not the close friends, even though randos at the school know that Nate's. Pretty much gay now. Yeah, the words got around. Yeah, so it's pretty funny because I love Lexie. I'm not, it just shows like her cute character. I love her. Then we have
39:56 Ethan and Cat a small blip of them in the classroom and evens. Kind of like yo what happened at the carnival? We were having a great night and like you fucking bailed and I texted you like 50,000 times. And I looked at my tattoo and I, I told Alex, I give Ethan, so I will take back every medieval time T-shirt, comment. I made, like I stand even in this moment because he confronts her instead of being shy. He's like, yeah, like I said You fucking text and I saw that they were delivered. Like what's the deal? He like puts her in the hot seat and she honestly
40:27 the first time I agree with you cats kind of a bitch to eat them. Like she's so mean to him. I know he's so sweet. Even in this scene. There's a projector in the classroom showing something on screen. No way. They show it. There projector is right behind Ethan, so that the light is coming out around his head. Like he's a literal Angel. He's a job isn't a cat is so mean to him. And yeah, and I will say I mean, I think I don't think it's with intent. I think she's going through a lot, but we'll get into that later. Um, yeah, and then we get the return
40:57 on the on the couch train. We get the return of the cat mask. She's, she's once again conversing with our boy, Johnny, Johnny, unite USA. AK Tiny Dick Diaper Man. And talking about how she thinks men are pathetic, which is pretty funny, given that she is there wearing the silliest like Dollar Store cat mask spending her time as a hot young high schooler talking to Tiny Dick Diaper Man For What like 100 bucks. Like I mean good for her for getting that money. But like, if we're going to talk about pathetic, yeah. Men are pathetic
41:27 and that guy's definitely fortunately. That's not pathetic but like, no, he's not. But like, your hypothetically like a hot young high school, girl, and this is how you're spending your like Dream High School nights talking to. I found that on the internet, let another fun plug. I should have talked about this last episode, but I read about it. After we filmed or recorded what the fuck ever cats reaction to the diaper man's micropenis was actually organic. I did not know that like meeting the crew. The crew did not tell her that the man casted had a micropenis. So when
41:57 she watched him as he actually gave her a little talk before because on HBO, they have what they call, I forget what it's called, but they have someone that's like a therapist if you will, that's with You like that? Yeah. The sex coach sex coach saying, make sure you're okay with Chuck in which is very important, but they were there and they were like, well, let you know something like really sexuals going to happen on the screen, but you just have to act organically so she had no idea this kind of micro penis. I love that because her reactions like to be fair. Her organic reaction is really funny. She's like cackling. She's laughing. That's pretty funny. It's funny. Yeah,
42:28 because as an actor, you don't know if you should maybe be like, oh like, oh my God, that's hot that she looks just like fucking laughing. So I'm like Carga job. That is pretty funny. So then we got Maddie in the questioning room at the school. She's being asked like Yoda Nate fucking choke you out. She is flipping a shit. Maddie really like turns. This is like her character Arc where you really see her like kind of unravel. She's a she's a really shit part. It's really it's for me. It's sad
42:58 because it she goes from being this, like idolized, confident character, if you will to like no makeup rough as fuck. Like appearances, don't matter, but it's showing that like her facade is gone. It's a twin rumbling and we can't blame her like a guy. Choked her out. Yeah, it's awful. But yeah, it is. It's traumatic. No other. It should never be choked by their boyfriend. I mean, they is a, I mean, it's sad that through all of this. She's like, defending him and trying to get out of it, and make it okay, but like she's a victim. So, of
43:28 course she is. But so often I have Justice and huge props to her mother. Yeah. I mean, her mother who seems like a pretty sus role model and General. But at least her mom. I mean, generally both her parents seem like trash but her mom in two instances we've seen does it least seem to like love or give a shit about Maddie, which is that when she finds out the pageants are full of full of pedophiles. She pulls her out of pageants when she probably the wrong reason, but like still like good, she's out rajan's
43:58 and then she's like, yeah, we're fucking pressing. Those charges against Nate, like there's no doubt. It even take a minute to think about it. She's like, no, we absolutely are. God and the dad's just sitting there like an idiot. So yeah, good job. Good job. Oh, yeah. He's there. He's just slumped up against the wall like hanging out. He doesn't say anything. Oh, yeah just for mom. Is that dad's? There? He's just does. He says man interesting factoid? I had no idea the David whereas most ads would be ready to like fucking are you positive? I want to re-watch it where swear
44:28 on my foot. It's not calm. Eat have this really interesting conversation. They're off in the side room. He's Cal comes in and is like after he barfs. In the bathroom like a little pussy. He comes in and is like Nate. Did you choke not? Like, did you did this happen? Yeah, and it's like, no it didn't, but it's like very obvious that, like, kaunos by fucking dinner. We all know Cal knows. Nate. Did it? Yes. Cal wants to hear? Nate say he didn't, so he can go ham on like defending
44:58 Nate. Yeah, but I think we all know Cal knows native, but I also think it's very important. It is so important to elaborate. On the scene in that when you watch it. If you haven't watched the show a second time around, next time you watch it. Just notice like their chemistry in that scene because I think it just shows how manipulative cows every day. He doesn't even have to say like, you are going to say this, we're gonna do this Nature's, fucking does it because he knows if he doesn't his dad's right
45:28 there. Like, it's a threat. It's like, his dad is fucking scary. He's like, literally sitting there, like, he could not moment be vulnerable and maybe go like Oh my God, I fucked up but he knows that's not an option. It's like very clear that their Dynamic is like you didn't do it right? Like his dad is Hardcore. Yep agree. There's no room. In other words. There's no room for mistake or error. His dad's like you didn't do this, right? Yeah, and I think despite the manipulation cow also thinks he's being like a good dad by like, having, like, he's back
45:58 and being like, we're gonna fight this, like, walk out with your head held high, whereas it's like nah, dog, you're being such a toxic, like, horrible. Honor, yeah. Terrible. Cause a bad terrible. He's a bad news or bad. Let me get. I actually was laughing. I said this next scene. It's really dramatic after they have this like whole epic like lawn or SVU, seamer, Maddie and meet our pressing charges. There's like all this drama. Then they walk through this like epic music. They want
46:28 this empty cafeteria. Where Angels are doing homework. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. It's kind of a weird scene. Yeah, the whole cafeteria shut down there and they're doing their thing. NG they walk through. Andrew. I said It reminds me of Alex. She's like, not taking it seriously and I'm not like making. I think it's funny though. I don't take anything. Seriously. I know you don't but like, Ruth kind of like haha member when you fucked like cow and jewels obviously is like, really like, that's not funny. That's serious. Like, let's not talk about that, please. Like that's obviously not a moment. I want to like, joke about Andrews, like, okay,
46:58 like I didn't know it was that serious even though we're definitely know something's up. And then she likes hearts elaborating and she's like, I don't know what she says, but then Jules. And she gets pissed and walks off because ruse, like, you know, be really funny is if we charged Cal like, if you literally press charges you and I got a shit ton of money. Yeah. I got a bunch of money. You can. All we can go off into the world and do our thing and jewels essentially gets out of a bad plan, not a bad plan at all. And I was just joking. I literally wrote a note route is out because that's some shit. Alice
47:28 would say I'd be pissed and I'd be like Kate. Take this shit serious. Like this isn't funny. Yeah, but Jules gets past a I mean she's just Like she's holding in a lot of emotions that she's not. She doesn't feel like she can open it up to Julia about it, which is more about, but she's looking really good. I gotta say Jules looks great in this episode. She's not going on. I know, but that has nothing to do whatever. So anyway, it's also just prior to that, we get like a little more cat action,
47:59 where she's like rolling through the mall and she's like, there's nothing more powerful than like a fat girl. He doesn't give a fuck like she's doing her thing. We've got her like, all right, I love that quote. They use it a lot. So tread kind of slow. I'm going to tread very lightly here. I don't think the red outfit works for her but like good for her. I think it's kind of like back into like the like this is less your style and more like you just rip this from like dolls kill like Mall, got fives,
48:29 but like she's powerful. She's got her thing going. Good for her. She clearly give some Fox. She's like almost crying about the thing with Even. So she definitely give some folks but like, she's putting on the face. Like she doesn't so she's doing her cast doing her thing. This episode in the last episode is kind of cats. Like, I'm doing my thing. I'm gonna bang some dudes. Let's address some dudes, what we call a false confidence. She's getting validation. We do. She's building
48:59 validation off of guys. She's just given blow drops to their like you're amazing. And it's like that's not like real. That's not I got a real confidence boost like you could suck a guy's dick for two seconds. And you might go. You're the most amazing thing I've ever had. Like that's not like validation and who you are, is as nothing to do with like what a great person cat is so we both agreed that liked the part when the car mom's dropping her hair. It's real sweet. But, like, she's kind of, we never do this anymore. And you kind of see, like another side of cat where she's like a little more childish and you can tell like, she's struggling. Yeah. It's
49:29 like she's yeah, that's definitely struck. We never do this anymore because your daughter spends all her time. Talking to Tiny Dick Diaper Man on the internet instead of you. Like ooh, ouch. I know, but I told Alex, I felt really sad when she almost cried with Ethan and the classroom because it's like You Can Tell She's struggling. So we're that's what we are with cat. It's troubling. See what she does next episode, but she's struggling. Yep. So then we go back to ruin jewels and it seems like in the last episode. I mean, they spent some time in bed. They like, made out. We're not really
50:00 sure what exactly happened, but it seems like they might have got up to something. So, now, they're kind of talking about their sexual history with each other. They're just so funny. And it gives a very funny, like, preface of her sexual history. It's my super brief and horrifying sex history with I love there. It is, every of that's Idol. I love that. They make it, like, kind of like the dick pic scene, where it's very like, let me tell you my story. Yep. It's great. It's very accurate for the, I mean, everyone has different stories. I
50:30 definitely can relate to ruin this. Where, like, I've hooked up with guy since I was 13, not proud of it, but like I had kind of proud. But I have, but like, I'm definitely her where it's, like, guys a little bit. Like it was amazing. Like, like wasn't that. So great. And I'm like for you because I'm amazing but like, no, not for me. Like I was faking that, like, I literally told Alice, I haven't had an orgasm since, like I was in college.
51:11 I haven't, I'm sorry. I thought that we were prior to my words. The cooks is really getting to me. I haven't, I did not have a real orgasm in high school. Like I don't think that ever happened. Maybe it did. I don't know. But trust me, you probably remember, trust me. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't all the time. So the reason I say that I'm sorry. I fucked up. I'm a little drunk. The reason I say that is because when Maddie, in the opening scenes, when she's like, pretending, she's watching porn. She's Like, faking
51:41 all for orgasms and like, practicing that was page Blazer in high school. I was very like tutorial. I was like learning. I was replicating and then getting praise. Yeah. So all I'm saying, is I really do cat really to marry a rich. Really like it's all the same. It's all in the The same umbrella of the girls always faking it. So guys, in high school. If you're listening you're a girl is most likely fucking faking it probably. But we got a history. My favorite part of the history is that she's like, I guess I gave like handjobs
52:12 to like these certain guys and like three or four of those guys look like they're probably about like 7 years old like this, which is very accurate like because middle schoolers really do look like that. Like I look in the most when I was four when I wasn't Final score. That's yeah. That's what she said. She said in middle school. I gave hand jobs to like four years. I mean, when I was a freshman in high school, I looked like I was about 11 years old. So yeah, it makes sense. But like God this is there anything less hot than giving a blowjob to like a seven-year-old
52:42 looking like middle schooler. What are you all? So great and think of this or not, but when you also agree that a Euphoria cast really well and that none of the you high schoolers look like they could be in college. Yeah. Because they're all actually about the Rite Aid. Yes, they just like games. Oh shit, where everybody cast? Like 30 year? Olds is like high school or, yes, but I'm saying, I didn't think of that we didn't mark that as a no to talk about. But I definitely think that's important to bring up because like Disney Channel on the gloating. They always pick like, he's 30 year old people to play high schoolers. So then that makes you for even that more special, is that they actually pick people
53:12 that are like relate. They can relate to that. They did a good job, picking people that look the age. They're supposed to be playing for the most, then we move on. They they essentially exchange sex stories. Whatever. It's funny. Then we in. Little Montage of ruse little sex exchange. We got Lexi. Andrew making up. This is interesting. A lot of fans are very involved in this because we've talked about it so much, but fans really do think Lexie. Andrew
53:42 are like, they didn't want to fuck. I still don't buy it. This scene to me, is just further Evidence like they seem. It doesn't seem like there's much like hot tension there. It just seems like a classic like, kind of weird. Awkward Moment where you're like, remember that one time? I try to teach you how to french kiss, and it was weird. And you're like, yeah. Well, they might be exploring their sexual orientation. I agree with you. I am one of these are of them seems like they're like hot and like into it in that moment though. Yes. I know.
54:13 I'm on the brink. I don't think Lexi loves. I think love is a very strong word. I think she might kind of have a crush on room. Maybe a friend. Crash. Even the seminar will talk. I don't know. Anyways, I mean, I think it's important to me up. It's a huge conspiracy Among Us. Fans, I mean, I'm sure this is a big kick-off, a lot of fans think in season two, they're going to unravel a glass. He's left for you. I do not. Then that's gonna hide anything that's gonna happen. I don't buy it, dude. She's by. I see, I don't think we have even close to enough points of reference to have even a vague
54:43 idea of Lexi, sexual orientation. True. I'm grade 100%. And so with that being said, I think we should move on. So then we move on to the police station, where they've brought a, they brought Maddie in, because they're like, out your mom's pressing charges. We gotta lay. It does cock it up. He's losing her mad. He's losing her shit. She's like, you're not gonna let a she's like Fuck you bitch. Come and try and take off my clothes and handcuff me. Yeah, and they're like, okay, we will see dramatic but also like that cop is very right.
55:13 She's like, trust me. I know you don't believe this now, which of course she doesn't. But like the person that did this to you does not love you very true, which is a huge, Olivia Benson moment. And if oh, yeah, little followers, don't know, Olivia. Amundson isn't well Farmers. Little followers, small followers, cute little you for Ian's maybe big followers. I don't know if you don't no longer as we use one of the other battles in the world. There's like 25 fucking Seasons. So, you know, immerse yourselves. It's
55:43 a great quarantine watch. But anyways, we watch a lot of SVU around. We really do and you know what? This episode could not be more Law and Order ask it's like, there's this like Girl Detective who's like, you know, what? Like, listen to me. I'm older than you. I'm a I'm a cop and I see the shit every day. This guy does not love you. So then it goes why we have a lot of like reference to like trauma and victimhood on our podcast. Like we kind of look at it with that angle. And I think it's probably goes for you. It is only watch so much of Lan or
56:13 watch a lot of fucking, I said the rape all that stuff. Yeah. It definitely comes from water. All right. So then we go over to the other the other investigation room, which is neat and he throws naughty under law. He's being such a blast. Yeah, he's talking about how he loved her and stuff. It's like in the same breath. He's selling her out for doing a bunch of drugs and banging a bunch of dudes. And it's like, dude, like fuck you. That's awful. Classic Nate. But yeah, if there was any question about whether Nate loves Maddie, let's review his police interrogation where he says that she was really high and always fucked a bunch of dudes when they weren't together.
56:44 It's awful. I mean, it just goes to show it does really eliminate any empathy for Nate and any he has no emotion. Once again, just now motion. He doesn't give a fuck. There's not an ounce of care for that is being pressured by Cal to do this. It. Would be very sad but he's very like this is him. This is him. No one knows that Maddie was high in that sequence, but him he's all about this Lee. Let's count them Thompson. Anything about it was on drugs and it's also a fucking terrible liar in the sequence, which I think means that he's feeling the heat a little bit because usually
57:14 use a pretty good liar, but he's clearly like not on his game. Not at all. So then we got we kind of skip forward, bruising or Alcoholic Anonymous class or whatever. It is, narcotics analysis, products analysis and Us and all the she kind of gives us a little speech. And I told Alex, like I get emotional every time I almost I literally almost cried. Again. I cry all the time during your for you but I don't find a sagas in Her speech. She essentially has like she hopes that her and Jules last forever,
57:44 but she, she's like, but if we don't like that'll really fucking sock. Like I know it's not likely but like I wish it could be the case and that for me is really hard to swallow because It's just so hard as a high schooler. Like, you're so caught up in it. And you're so in love and your emotions are so high. So for her, as an addict is even more like, it's like magnified by 10. So that seems just very vulnerable and Andrew never really expose her feelings. So perfectly that in a room, I'm sorry.
58:14 Tyler when she's talking she's giving the speech. Ya know if my mom when she gives us we have she's a fucked you all over. I've never told the truth now. I am. Yeah I met this girl. Yeah. Yeah, then you said it debunked. The theory of Ali being ago. I don't know if it fully debug said, but she does she talks about she mentions Ali by name and kind of like gestures to him in the crowd and no one acts like that's weird. Whereas if he was just invisible. Everyone would be like, what the fuck is she talking about? Who's Oli? Who she looking at? She was a gun? No one really
58:44 react. So I don't buy this. He's not. Yeah. Ali Andrew also have a little convo at the diner now. And he's basically giving us earlier in the episode. We had to have it. Have a conversation. He's given her the the like more intense version of what ruse mom said where he's basically like this won't last. Like this is a high school relationship. It won't last which is hard. Like if I were there I'd be like Ali like dog. Like we all know we're older. Like we know that it's probably
59:14 not going to last, but like you gotta ease up on it. You gotta take it easy. Like, you don't crush her dreams. Don't crush the romance. Don't crush the leg or, or, or do not, don't cross that the let thing. Don't crush it. Let it happen. Let her experience it for herself. Let her shoulder her fall if that's really what you think. And that's the case. Like let her learn and fall. Yeah, it's just too much. Yeah, I do that. Like what ruse? Mom didn't kind of try to like help her through it and like prepper for it a little bit. But all these
59:44 like very harsh and it's just like high school relationships, don't last and it's like well what it like a million does and like maybe this one will and even if it doesn't like you don't have to like come down so Ham on this. Yeah. It's a little harsh. Let them have their like magical High School romance for a minute. So then we have a really cute, same rituals and her daughter at Sushi. Which I it's we don't really need to go too in depth but like we both Stand rules. That is such a good again. Such a good character. She looks great. It's great. She looks great her Fashions. Great, but also like Jewels, dad is
1:00:14 so awesome. He's like really cute and like is like, hey, like what are you going to write invite you to dinner? And she's kind of like, you know, like buzz off Dad, which is how I am like, she's not rude, but she just like that up. She should invite rooted in her with them though. That'd be very nice. So then come on heard of plants the seed. He literally plant the first seed of wear Jewels starts to kind of shift her feelings towards her. I think before her daddy, Inside this, I think she was still kind of like excited about her Andrews little like whatever they did in bed. We don't know. But I think she was just riding
1:00:45 the high of that and then her dad was like is Russo going to meetings? And then he was like, that's great. Like you're such a good influence and anyone knows something like that can literally anyone that's like normal knows that that can weigh on you because you're like, I like I don't want to be the reason someone sober. So then we move on. He's one of a bunch of people in this episode putting kind of like some heat on. On Jules Lexi does the same thing I see as the same rank but basically Jules is hearing from a couple different people that like
1:01:15 she's the reason roux is doing. Well. The reason rules not on drugs. The reason we use not killing herself and naturally for a high school kid. That is a fucking ton of pressure and rules starts to like kind of like feel the pressure and she kind of starts select collapse under it. Like she's yelling it. She is not doing well. If you have this episode she is stressed the fuck out who's like sleeping in her arms, which he's clearly like. Very stressed because she feels like rose life. Pretty much depends on her at this point, which is a like you just said, which is a sudden it's a lot of pressure and to all
1:01:45 those people telling her that it's like, we all know it. We all see it, but you got to keep your mouth shut once again, like just don't say it or not. She's not even, but just like, if you are going to bring it up like in terms of like caring for her, do it like ruse, mom to be like, hey, like listen, love that you Andrew were like kicking it off, but just be careful like she's a, she's gone through a lot tried slow. So then we have We cannot not talk about the roller rinks in. This is Iconic. This is ruse way of making amends with Lexi, she invites around. She's like, hey, come
1:02:15 out with me and Jules run. Have a girls night. Like we're in a roller rink it up. So they roller rink. We've got the great neon lighting without that the outfits are often on the all three of them. Look absolutely great. A killer Santigold song Killers? Hannah called song, one of our favorites, definitely the music song of the week for me. At least. We'll talk about later but like such a good scene. So all having fun having a Time. I'm just going to my after watching this episode. I plan to take page to the classic shitty roller rink in my home town called Golden Skate,
1:02:45 where I was like, let's smoke a join the parking lot. Let's like bring a flask. Let's get fucked up. Let's go to Golden State and it was closed forever. That's really sad, really close it. Like, it was just one big Raptor. It was our business. I don't remember that. That's why. We know. We just couldn't go there just closed for the season. Oh, no, we would have gone. They just they didn't exist anymore. It was gone. It was an empty like where else? Well, Our VIP. But listen, they're having this great night. The roller rink is such a great like scene. And this is where like we said, Lexi kind
1:03:15 of also kind of puts the nail in the coffin. She's like Jewels you weren't, you know, you're the reason that ruse like doing so well, Jules break sounds awful. Yeah. I love the scene of them riding their bikes on the way home. It's very like slow-mo fun. But you also can sense the tension between Jewels Andrew because ruse like not stupid. She can sense that. Something's up. Yep. She's like trying to just act natural, which I appreciate roof for. Then after that. The US has a great orange sweater in that scene. Also. Oh, she also
1:03:45 wears the bestop center way and top during the roller rink, like underneath the sweater. She's got the girls top. It's off center - iconic. You do that. No, I missed that one. That's why I was in a room with loves you for you. I was like taco. He's sources a lot of the clothing. Russia. Also, just prior to the roller rink scene, we get the return of snakebites cats boy from the mall. We No cat, a cat brings her a little boy from them all out to the to the Loading Docks and they have a little moment. He turns out to be a pretty good dude. Like I'm sorry. I was so harsh on snakebites
1:04:16 earlier. He's kind of trying to actually talk with her. He's not trying to like be like, let's have sex like maybe pressure but then she cannot music and stuff. She like plays the other. Oh, she plays the male role in that situation is like, let's have sex like no no like all right, because obviously he has like about it. But like that's a huge bummer because she like goes to give him a blowjob him out and I were both laugh. Things. It's like she comes up so flawlessly. But nothing on her mouth. Looking like, clean and fresh as fuck. And it's like, no, no. No. Yeah. That's an unrealistic. BJ. Not just don't
1:04:46 call it our West High School Adult. It doesn't matter a BJ. Never ends in a Flawless. Like you wake, you you come up and you're like, looking good, makeups perfect. Also, lasted like a minute. Like yeah, so that was a funny scene. But also that's a good scene that you. I'm glad you mentioned that because that's kind of where like you said we leave off with cat kind of like on the brink of trying to figure out like, where is she at? Like confident with this whole like I just give guys BJ's in the parking lot or she like I want to be with someone like Ethan and kind of go that more mellow like real relationship. Yeah.
1:05:16 This is kind of like the next step after the Cason. It's more like meaningless sex. Yeah, but we don't know. Is it working for? I don't know. We'll see. So then we got obviously this great scene where Kyle reintroduce has, first of all cook champagne, which were drinking right now brings it in. He's he's down for Motel round. To Cal is back. Back at the motel motel hotel. Hallelujah. Yep. He's got a he's got another boy coming through another girl. This time. It is. Minako
1:05:47 who says my name is minako, but the boys I'll call me Mina Mina like, which is great. So I guess Cal can call him Mina but also we stand this character. He is so fun. Here. She I don't know. Whatever the character. Minako. I love one of my favorites. She'll along with like ashtray and some of the other like randos. They're so great. I mean literally the whole scene is so funny. He like gets out that chain comes in whips off the
1:06:17 chain, immediately puts like shitty rap. Music on the iPhone and starts, like Twirl in the Shaner. The chain around, got the legs in the air, like he's ready to rumble. We're ready to rumble. Offering Karl poppers, like what a great character. But I'm confident honestly is King. Buzzkill. Ruins it. He's like, I would rather talk about like my family life, and then, you can talk Monaco's, Like I Roll. Oh my God, but he's also, like, has a heart. So he's like, okay, I'll listen to this bullshit. But also like
1:06:47 me fucking to be done. Yeah. Cal does the classic like I'm with a sex worker? Just for like the therapy? Not, that menaka is a sex worker but called pulls that classic move. Like, yeah. He's never been a Berube, not for the bang. And so Monaco's. Like, all right. I'm just gonna smoke some crack. Like, listen to talk about to smoke some grass and listen to you. Talk about your boy. Well, cal cal serves, the the cooks Champion again plastic glasses. Same bottle back has all the his old routine. You know, he definitely has a routine and
1:07:17 this is where you learn his routine is the same every time because he has the cut it, like he said, it's like very methodical. It's like, he's got the cooks in the corner. He's like, can I offer you a glass? He says, all the same shit. It's all scripted stops at the grocery store on the way to that Motel every time and buys that bottle of cooks of those shitty plastic glasses. I love it. So Monaco's, just a great character, but also I'm An opposite there and listens, but under certain point, mint off as like cake. I mean, like be done and like coming, fuck this out. I was like, do you think it, like, affects my kids that I, like, hide this part of my life.
1:07:52 I thought, what about little beans? Where's middle, son? Beans? How has your sex life impacted, beans, career, youngest, son. That's never shot in the shower. He's probably dead because of it. I mean, that's really morbid. Respect is most like that. Beans has to be dead. There's no way he's not better than ever talk about him. There's a lot of Reddit theories, which maybe we'll go into another episode, but like for me, personally, I'm just like, where the fuck is this little song. I just, it's driving me crazy. I'm like, where's the little little
1:08:22 son, wears a little Jacobs? Yeah. Also, the scenes are really great argument for just embracing like your true self and being who you are because minako is like fully embracing. He's like everyone knows like who I am like I don't hide there. Has no like bullshit. Like I'm not going out like doing my thing. This is who I am and where as Cal hiding all this shit, having all these like fucked up, like weird scenarios and secrets and stuff. It's obviously fucking up his family and his own life.
1:08:53 He's like, where do you think he's like, my son has so much rage. It's like, yeah, where the fuck do you think that came from? I know it's your fault dummy here, the treasure but I thought they always try and redeem like, cows behaviors and just like his weird fucking way. But it's like, you know what? You're an adult. Take some fucking ownership. You don't need to sit here and chat with minako about like this shit. Like you should just already know this shit. Like you're an adult figure it out. So yeah, I'm just I'm over it. So Kyle Deb's, he drives his big man truck
1:09:23 away and here comes me to meet up with Maddie. Like, of course, they both drive trucks also who the fuck things that attract is like manly or hot or like confident like a trust or such as Looks are trash for these cows and excuse. He's in construction, that the bed of that truck probably sees some usage. Every once in a while. There's no fucking reason nature be driving a truck like I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. And if a guy ever picked me up in a truck, that's an immediate
1:09:53 like red file, but hmm, it probably was in the country and they're probably a big douche bag. So yeah, not up for the truck life. Then I was laughing because at the end of this like intense, see McHale spilling, his heart. Randy Newman comes in singing like a very Toy Story song. Yeah, the music is, I don't know what, I don't want to sit on it. It's great. I love really sad song. I love ready Newman. Well, it's a sad scene. It's yeah, the whole episode is very sad. It's very like, it alludes to like the
1:10:23 very end seen her. Jewels is very stressed about Roux. So it all makes sense, but it really reminds me of Toy Story 2. It's a, I can't not think of Toy Story's already knew someone that. No, I mean, other than Toy Story ending the episode. All I have to say is that that Motel do be seeing a lot of Jacob's family's even though the Jacobs family is keeping that motel and business, and their bodily fluids are all over that fucking Bloom. And that's also know, Cooks
1:10:53 is also running out of clouds. Cooks is like even a little business. So yeah, there we go. There's episode 5. As usual recently went through a lot of shit. I don't like thinking about this episode and that was a lot like So weird episodes was that more heavy episode weird on like it was hard to like poke fun at. Yeah. It's a weird. Why we still somehow found a way and I probably won't poke fun of it and everybody said so many inappropriate things like we don't give a fuck. That's why we're here whatever. So, you know what
1:11:24 it is. It is now time before superlative, some. All right, that's dressed Jewels all the way even more. So than last week. I think this Is where it comes together for Jewel's. Every outfit she had on this episode was killer, and I think she looks the hottest. She looked in the whole show and this one I would agree the scene with her in principle has the blue shirt that. Yeah. Purple hair. She's at sushi with her dad. She looks great. It's all good. The roller rink amazing.
1:11:54 Yep. All good match for were stressed. I said Maddie, but like Alex, Alex was very like page. You can't pick Maddie because she's like a victim. She just got tricked by Nate. Look, I agree. We fucked up. I made this and she's the worst stressful like sorry. Maddie was the worst trashy look, trough his fucking after reading the article that they purposely made her look like shit. Then I'm sorry. I'm here to say Maddie looked like shit in this episode. We're beginning. But when you know, there are a couple parts or she looked like the Unabomber, I originally did
1:12:24 not choose Maddie out of like yeah, she's got choked like and she's on her period and stuff. It seems like a cheap shot. But Paige Paige was like we're gonna be that objective and that harsh. So there you go. I mean, I can't say it's not mad. I mean looks like that you look he also couldn't think of anybody else. I was just being lazy as fuck. Well, there you go. Then we have Bay of the episode. We both decided on real because through this whole episode truly not only is she sober and she goes to
1:12:54 alcohol analysis. Whatever the fuck kotik synonymous. I can never remember the name, but she goes there. She's vulnerable. She tells the truth. She's also like very chill with jewels. Even though Jules is kind of overreacting. She's being Very supportive friend girlfriend, whatever it may be, whatever label they are. Right now. She's very supportive. She immense things with Lexi. They have a great night. So ruse really killing the specific steps. She's handling everyone telling her the thing with jewels isn't going to last pretty well.
1:13:24 She's very mature. She makes those steps with Lexi. Like she's definitely like moving in the right direction. She is then we've got big purple, rock Master, a bastard. Always Nate obviously. It's like we don't. Even understand why he choked Maddie, that's it and a million other reasons. Throws are under the bust of the cops was a piece of shit about the class clown. Minako. I got minako. I love the way menaka gets up in there and just is ready to rock and roll whips. The chain off shitty rap on the I
1:13:55 stopped it. Let's go. Yeah, I'm not sure if minako identify as a Out it comes in hot and ready to rock you. And I are never gonna be that political ready to smoke crack and like whip chains and fuck Eric. Dane? Their damn. Yeah, and he's down to drink the coke soaked in his death of a car, actually. No, you know, what why? My God, I just realized Manaka rejects the
1:14:25 cooks, I think. Maybe I like minako a little less than we saw. All of them. Also. I'm sure if we send him a bottle to be on the podcast, he would graciously accept, then a couple of the week. This was a tough call because there really isn't a strong couple in this episode. Everyone's kind of going through their roller coaster of emotions, but we picked rules because of like, the tattoo Zine. We do feel like up until people were like, really pushing jewels to the edge. We definitely both agree that like
1:14:55 ruin Jewels are doing well. Yeah. We're not well like they're very natural. They're very mature. They're having a good delivery along its in Jewels head. Things are going great. Exactly, dude. So not spared us have of the best couple. Yeah, it's rules. And then some song of the week. I think we both want the same goal. Despite the great Madonna song. What does it run the road? Yeah. Let's run. The world are on the run. The road. Is this an old song when they're at the roller rink. It's at the roller rink. It's a great song. Will definitely plug it in our Spotify playlist. It's it really is a banger. I'm here
1:15:25 for it. It's definitely one of my favorites. So we're here to end the episode. We went a little over this time, but honestly, there was like so much T to spell. There was so many interesting things about me and Maddie. I definitely on a post, I definitely want to hear from all of our you for Ian's. Like what are your thoughts? Do? We love Matty. Do we hate Maddie? Do we understand why their relationships at toxic? Like there are so many questions. I think I'm going to do a little trivia pull this week. I just want to get all of our fan, all of our fans
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