Episode 8 - A Euphoric Night to Remember Transcript

00:01 Calling all your for Ian's. You're cordially invited to East Highland High School's prom. When? Well, now, we're in the comfort of your own, quarantine a tire formal or just show up in your sweatpants, strap on your corsage and pour yourself, a nice bottle of Everclear and Gatorade RSVP. Now, by pushing play. It's going to be a euphoric Night to Remember.

00:59 Hello. You for Ian. Hello. Wow, I am speechless. It feels like just yesterday at New York announced quarantine, and yet. Here we are. What two months now, three months. Oh, who knows? Who knows? I've lost Comm has no meaning. Has no meaning. And yet, here we are and we are on episode 8 of this podcast. That is so crazy. One would say, that's so you for

01:29 I could, but it's all so fucking crazy. It's crazy. And it's what's really crazy is this just would not have happened without quarantine know. We've been playing with this idea for a long time. And we were already working on it, but it wouldn't have been off the ground for months. Still know that weren't for this. I mean, as a local New Yorker, I mean, you have no time, you know, your day is just packed from your What's your full-time job? Hustle and bustle of the city. I mean, there is no way the bustle. There's truly. No way. I mean, we've already talked

01:59 about this, but like our lifestyle is so fun and spontaneous. So like anytime we did because you're right, we had this idea. So early on, I think it was like back in November and it was such a good idea. And we were so passionate about it. We even bought the Mike's really got all the equipment, but then we were like every night we'd like decide to maybe record route like where we could Go to this new restaurant or we could go party at a new club like in New York. You don't there's no time to spare, like you can't sit at home. Now. We're forced to fucking

02:29 sit at home. So, I mean, here, we got sent away. Yeah, I'm eight weeks later. And here, we are at Babson episode 8. Baby the grand finale, the big old finale. It's not the last episode for us ever, though. We're going to keep them coming on a weekly basis. And I'll tell you a little bit more about that. Later. And it is like it is the last episode of euphoria. So, it's a little Bittersweet Bittersweet, and it's bittersweet. Also, because we literally have no fucking clue 1.

02:59 Season 2 will pick up so like, yeah, it could be a long time. Give me a long. I like to say that we would will keep the content coming until it's, well, seasoned tell you, but like, like if you like two years, we might write another copy, the content, let's be honest, but that's what our followers are for. They'll help us out. Well, you know, as usual, let's just dive into, like, you know, euphoric quarantine life. The news, I have the news, hot news. The first item is just like too much. We have to start with Zendaya. Posting

03:29 her selfish, right? Yeah. The story love this moment. I love this for Zendaya, honestly. And is it a photo of hers? Hers Rue? It might I was just her as real. I think I'm pretty sure. It's a still from you. For a might be it. Honestly, I'm embarrassed. I don't know. It's just funny that pretty sure it is. She looks kind of like she almost looks like she's lying in bed in his life. Like, I'm pretty sure it's from when she's in bed and Euphoria. Or am I being bad in quarantine. It could be either honestly, but yeah, I mean, honestly like I actually think

04:00 it's the shot from when her mom busts in and catches her masturbating in the show because she's giving that awkward like side. I look, and it might be, I really don't know. I mean, that would be, I hope it's that. But honestly overall, like I just want to know what's going through these had like, what is she doing in this quarantine? I see huh? Zero nick name basis. Now. The family does color Z, so I can't help it. Like now it's just, I'm used to it but like some Daya I just want to know what was running through her head.

04:30 Like, she must be really fucking bored of. She's clip parting and photoshopping Shrek over her face and she's wearing that. I love it. I know I'm really here for it and honestly to all you folks out there that were saying that she's fucking depressed and shit, like clearly she is thriving and is not. I mean, it's not look like depression to you. Posting a strike me. I'm is never depression. If anything. It's like, wow, she must be doing better than she's ever been. Yeah, but after that, I mean, I have a lot of news. Clementine,

05:00 the movie came out. That's a nice weenie Stars. A, let's talk about Clementine. We watched it last night. We actually rented. It just came out. What yesterday. Yes, watching it on the premiere. We watched the premiere and what's really great is they actually included as in their incest or today, which was awesome. And followed us and said of the director, which is huge because we really Enjoy it. And honestly, I would recommend going to the website and I'll be sure to put, I already put it in my insta story today, but I'll repeat just so that you all have something to do during quarantine because it really is

05:30 like a good movie to watch but you can rent it. And the money goes to different theaters like all over the US and ours was our old Home Town Theater, which was kind of cute. Yeah, Cinema 21 in Portland, Oregon. Yeah, great little Little Theater been there forever. Super, great movies. Used to be right around the corner from us, so, Oh, it's so good. It's only 12 bucks. I mean, go do it if you're a super fan. I mean, why not? So nice weenies, excellent in it. She's always just such a great actress. Like she really does a great job

06:01 yesterday. We talked a little bit about climbing up. That will give a little brief a little Brief Review. Yeah. I mean we were both just drinking wine and we had a great night and watching it. It's very like lake house fives. Yeah. Loosely. It's a I described it in the Reddit post as a lesbian lake house drama. Yeah, exactly. It's about a Attention a young woman from La, she goes through a breakup with her older girlfriend moves that she she's on the way. She runs

06:31 away up to the woman's organ Florence, Oregon, not too far from the old Hometown. Yeah. To her exes cabin in the woods and kind of posts up at the cabin where she comes across a nothing. Good ever happens in a cabin in the woods. I know you think opposite because you actually were like born and bred Northwestern ER but I fucking hate the woods. Zayn ever feel relaxed. It's scary as shit. So like I mean, it's a great like woodsy. I mean she met Sydney, titanium Woods, that's a pretty good thing. Yeah. It is a good thing. Yeah. She

07:01 needs. She meets a weird little local Sydney Sweeney starts hanging around and we could hear they have a little flirtatious relationship, a lot of things kind of go on from there and it gets kind of weird and I don't want to give too much away because it's like you just have to watch it but it's very atmospheric. The music was great. I mean, yeah, the actors were great. The woods reminded me of home. The director is a female. So, like shout-out girl power alpha male. So, yeah, it was honestly really great. And,

07:31 like I said, Cindy swimming, like, stole the show, she's always just a really. I actually, I do want to bring up. I said, I feel like a 24 needs to use her. And their next horror flick. I really want to see Sydney Sweeney perform in like a really intense horror film. Yeah. I was saying, she seems like one of those actresses who could really be pushed to like Crazy, like limit, she could be the star of like one of those horror movies where somebody is just like pushed and pushed and pushed. And just goes, completely lineup Bogger like Florence, woman's honor

08:01 like hereditary like, that type of vibe. I would love to see her in that. I think she would do great. I think like Sydney, Sweeney your resume is just building by the minute. Let's, let's plan a horror film. She's getting any show that's coming out on Amazon Prime. I believe called voyeurs or like lawyer. Voyeur. And it's supposed to be scary but I'm not positive. It's like a 24 level, like Oscar. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't compare. I don't know hard to say, I can't even say I will look into it. But like

08:31 I want to see her on a twenty four films. What I'm saying, like a 24 does a good job of keeping the keeping the kids in the ring? They've got Alexa Demi and all their films. So come on Joseph. They got a white boy into so let's keep building that are 24 resumes. What I want then we've got Angus We do is washing machines broken. So he has to use the laundromat like like a normie. It's great to send some pics flex and in his fly blue outfit

09:02 outside of the local laundromat, which is hilarious. I didn't even know like an l.a. You would ever go to a laundromat. Like, have you ever heard of anyone? We know living in a lie without laundry? I mean, that's not. I mean, build a laundry machines are broken. What do you do? Oh, that's it. So he wasn't just going like, know he was like I gotta I had to go to the laundromat acts of the lon. And that makes sense or Corona. He probably can get like a maintenance guy to come by. I don't know. But, yeah, I feel fairy is at the laundromat. You look good. I feel like Alex can really relate to Angus

09:32 and this small moment in time because Alex has to go to our New York laundromat. Anytime. We I just don't go. He goes and does all of our laundry. Yeah, and because of quarantine, we let it build up for about like probably three months almost. So the last times I've been doing laundry. I had to go like three weeks consecutively because Laundromats only open a few days a week across I had I was there like every day at the exact same time like, once a week. You're like homies with like the laundromat lie. Yeah, you guys are gonna lesion shop. It's really cool. Yeah. She nods

10:02 at me whilst like eating her lunch and screaming to her friends on the phone. So Angus, if you ever need any laundromat recommendations, like Alice could do a quick look up or ask at the lady at our screening recommendations. Yeah, then we've got Jules. She's on Twitter, you know, she was asking if anyone had New request for anime and I'll talk to you how to get requests for any of you that do watch anime. We were kind of just listening off things because she said she had just watched. What does it even to? I don't want her just said that she had finished or re-watch

10:32 a Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I love. And I recently watched a short anime film. Not that short. It's like an hour and a half. I'm called Angels egg. That is always kind of like recommended and talked about a long side of and Galleon because it features a lot of like Christian symbol. Ology and weird like esoteric. Ancient religious themes like Evan Galleon does. So Jules would definitely be down for that or Hunter I should say. I think she probably enjoy it. It's

11:02 Ritz. It was great. It's a weird movie. It's quiet. There's almost like there's very little dialogue, very little music. It's beautifully animated like it looks incredible. And it has some pretty interesting like, religious question that it postulates and some really interesting. Seeing weird religious symbolism. It's all about the ark Hunter. You hear that? The great flood of the arc. Damn. It was gonna like that sweetener. So maybe she'll see your recommendation. Who knows? Maybe if not, she's missing

11:33 out about a little girl that has to protect an egg. So there you go. Can't imagine him. Not us. And I'm very exciting page. I know a lot of our fans love anime. So I'm not here sitting on it. I just have been very close-minded to it and haven't really dived in. I should though. I probably would be really. I like the style behind them are just having like, watch nothing. Come on. So then we've got Jacob. Oh, Lordy over here. Taking a step back from the Nate roll and diving into Broadway, random

12:03 or I don't know if you'd call it Broadway, I guess. Yeah, because it's like acting live. It's like kind of Broadway ask but he was doing Pride and Prejudice on like a live Zoom type. I don't even know how they would do that. It's so weird because it was like I was laughing. Someone made a meme and I didn't get a chance. Chance to watch it, but I absolutely will. So, maybe next time, I'll tell you about it. I think he like, put on my costume and like prance around in his living room. Like what seemed? Like they were. No, I looked at pictures because people were taking

12:33 screenshots of like the screen and I was kind of perplexed because maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they were dressed up in more like a table read. Yeah, exactly. So he wasn't like in his sweats like dancing around this doll sitting, but I do want to watch it because I feel like it's got to be fucking hilarious. I'm not saying he'd be a bad. Garcia but I don't really see it. But also like he's such a good actor that I'm like maybe did a great job. I don't know. I need to watch it. I can't really review it. But if you all are, you know, bored and want some more content, he did do that. And I think it is

13:04 on its on his page. So you can just go to the link in his bio and watch it but from Nate Jacobs to mr. Darcy's Lassie. Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry Pride and Prejudice is really stupid. But you know what? I'm really glad he's dipping his toes into Broadway because Is oh my God, I fucking love Broadway. So my dream would be Jacob to be on Broadway. I mean, I'd be here for it. That's your dream. That's all my dream. It's one of my many. I have a lot of Dreams. Alex. I have a lot and one of them. Yes, is Jacob.

13:34 Oh Lordy on Broadway. Wow. Okay, so then Cal apparently, I think it's starting to I think he's like copying Sydney, Sweeney and perhaps might be hinting. Are we getting a Herrick Dane book club, according to your book club? I am, like I appreciate his choice of book club. Yeah, tell us about it. He's reading a book clubs in amorphous metamorphosis. Yeah, the men like the many mutations of Hardcore, mutations, so wrong. It's called mutations. Mutations the many

14:04 faces of hardcore punk or something like that, but it's a history of the hardcore punk scene, probably starting in like the mid 80s. I would guess it's not my favorite era of punk personally, but it seems like the book is super solid. It got pretty great reviews from like touch her. And stuff. So, if you're a hardcore, I mean, he must why on Earth. Would you ever read that book? If you didn't listen to hardcore, punk? I don't know. I feel like that'd be great though. Like, if it's about the right age

14:34 to have like been listening. Is it screamer? No, no, not screaming. Oh God. No one should ever write a history of screaming. Oh, that can just be forgotten. Would be. Okay, you can let screen mode. I like so, yeah. I don't know. Maybe cause this. Being a hardcore punk before he goes on set or Arab Dana's. Maybe he's in his trailer like Boston at all. I'm just getting hired. Like blasting like hardcore punk. He's just like smashing his little hands on his head. Yeah, or maybe he's straight edge. He's mutating

15:04 into Cal, literally. He's a mutation of kokal. Definitely does not listen to punk. What do you think Allison's do? I think he's absent question talismans to Enya and like classical like like psycho, like looks like it's a logical. I think it's too sensitive for him. I can see. Classical. He doesn't really scream. I said and yeah, I was thinking of like the serial killer scene and Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I'm thinking like cow. Yeah, he could be I could see him just in like classic like Mozart the Suburban. Dad form

15:35 listening to just like the old like 80s like hair metal hits, you know, like damn radio some Van Halen. I don't think he'd have much fun. But like, I feel like that's what it like when he's like talking about Mac and mash and being real dad. I feel like he'd be listening to like the good old like ATS what? Yeah hit station. He also like wants to be really manly. So maybe he's listening to like much so much. I Wanna Be I don't think in his trailer. I don't think he's cool Village People.

16:05 They like the gayest band ever. We should be cool with it. Well, I don't think he's openly cool with it. I guess I better bright though. I bet like before his leg Motel hookups. He's probably listening to like macho man. Yeah, a little bit. I have a tiger Oh, yeah, I gotta get in the zone. Well, the only other cool quarantine content I have. Is that mod who's just so adorable, which we haven't watch her show either. We've just had a lot on her plate with our podcast, but she's having a great time with her cat. She

16:35 posted a cute Instagram today. That was like it scattered. A witch 100% were here for. I mean, I really wish her cat. Could meet me ball. What's another fun day? We know what's her cat's name? Yeah, do we know not that? It's important. I was just it is important. What do you If I'm I mean, I guess that's near important is so important, not that they ever answer to it. I mean, think about meatball if he wasn't named in Bali that would suck. Yeah. True. How do you say, say his name in different languages again? Meatball his name, Anna in Spanish

17:05 is all bendiga. I want Diga in Italian. It's pulled Peta. That's my favorite. Really important, true. Okay. Well, that's all I have for quarantine content. But what a wild week for our cast members while indeed wild, we, everyone is handling quarantine differently and they're definitely,

17:36 I would love to see their group chats. You know, they have on going on during quarantine if once. Yes, because one thing I will mention is they're all very like it's cute. They're all very supportive of one another on Instagram, the minute someone post, something you just see like flooding in a Comment from every single person on the Caspian. Like, okay, boo. I see you like, okay, like, quarantine baby. Like, they're all like, really funny classic. Yeah. So I love that. They're a very like, close family type crew. So I feel like it's just fun. So they

18:06 definitely have a group text going on during quarantine. I guarantee it. I bet Zendaya sending them Shrek memes all week long. Yes. Well, without further Ado. I think it's time to get euphoric and just start in. The last episode of the season. Last one episode, a, which is titled and salt, the Earth behind you. Is that right? Yep. Yep. That's right. When our listeners because I honest to God. Like I still you told me now a couple

18:36 times with this means I still don't know what I mean. I only know because I'm a big history nerd but it's a it's a term that's related to Ancient Warfare, which was basically like if you beat somebody at War and you really To be like, fuck you like it was a real personal leg. I hated them or you would go around all their fields and all their land and put throw salt on it because that like basically like boxes that makes the Earth bear and like nothing can grow in the lands. Just fucking

19:06 covered in salt and he's funny then they can like rebuild their civilization there. So if you like like the classic one is like Rome and Carthage. Like when Rome like finally like raised Carthage to the ground. They did. Why Out the city and then they salted the Earth so that they could never like rebuild Carthage there at like come back to like fuck up Rome. It was like you're done the ultimate Revenge. Yeah, the ultimate funniest you can't ever build this city here again. That's cool. Then that I like that. They use that

19:36 as the title then because I know we were a little bothered by like the hip-hop songs like ending but I think for the finale that's a great one because she also directly quotes that later on when her and rear on the steps. Did you know that for sure? Sure, and it's when I think it's when Jules is talking about maybe being a fuck and her being like I'm glad it's when they're trying about town roux is like, I want to burn this town. Now. Your Jewels is like yeah, salt the Earth behind you. So, you know, I'm so stupid before we really do, you know, did

20:06 the Deep dive and start our podcast? I always thought the title makes no sense. I thought it meant when you throw salt behind you and it's like, for good luck, huh? It doesn't match anything, but I just thought, Select the future is like, oh, I'm not an addict and they throw salt. The ha ha ha like. Oh man. I hope Anna, you know, fucks off. Yeah, salt. I was on Wikipedia, the other day and saw something really funny where for each episode, they list like

20:36 the title. And then it says, what? Hip-hop song. It's referencing and 4 episode 7, the trials and tribulations of trying to peel, you're depressed or whatever Wikipedia list that as a reference to an album called trials and tribulations. By some like, Obscure rap artist, that's on DJ, Khaled label that I've never done before and I was like, there is no way the title of that episode is a reference to this DJ. Khaled like, signed artists like album from like a couple of years ago. The music's too good

21:06 and the curation of everything is way too. Like Superior for it to be. Like, I need a citation for that on Wikipedia because I don't buy it Mabel. Could you be so embarrassing? That is maybe we should like, do a little more digging. I don't buy it well, but You have this great opening scene, which I actually love I think ruse so cute in this. It's like her in the hospital. She's like live in her best life and she kind of goes into how like her for her. A hospital was like a safe haven like vacation Lily vacation. It's like throw your cares

21:36 away. Throw the salt behind you if you will. Yeah, she gets. It is like enjoy, there's no pressure. There's no outside world, like interference. It's like everyone's waiting on her hand and foot and I was telling Alex, I I weirdly like it's not like easy for me to admit this but I can relate to ruin a lot of ways. And this is one I can because I think similar to me and my personal life some people like their way of coping is like not allowing anyone to help you. So when you're like in a situation where you're being forced to like be helped

22:07 and like having everyone help you, it does feel really good. So I got that like, I don't think she means like oh, I like love a hospital. I want to live here for life. It's more of just like it's a really nice like breather like it's like, oh, like I'm being And it's you're forced to relax and you're forced to allow people to like you and wait on you and stuff so I can I can see it like in her circumstance. Why that's? Yeah, that's comforting. I would be miserable. I fucking hate a hospital. But you know, I know I got it. I don't like a hospital like it's weird

22:37 for me. I just mean more. I understand. Like I like when I'm sick. I'm like, someone taking care of me. I don't like being sick. Right. But I like the feeling it's comforting. It's also kind of like kind of like quarantine. She's basically like I have nothing to do. Do I have no responsibilities? Like I just like fucking kick it and walk around in my underwear. Need yellow and watch Judge Judy. Yeah. And let my life. Like kind of waste away. I doesn't matter. I don't relate right now. I think everyone can relate to rewrite now. Also. Sadly not that I like to admit this, but it's also a

23:07 really easy Gateway for her to have access to drugs. Not that easy because the doctor while she tried catches her, she does her best to try but there's a pretty bad actor. So her her whole stack about. Yeah, like I think they gave This one Drug Lake whatever because that rocket Eliza rocks, rocks, rocks, rocks, which I looked up. I didn't know what that was, but it's just like it's a combination of like oxy and acetaminophen. Oh great. Very casual. Yeah, rou does her best to

23:37 get some drugs, which is a bummer because she's been sober for so long but the doctor is luckily or not completely incompetent, catch that. So she doesn't get her drugs. Thank God. I know. I like how they, like, what your mom says a long history of drug abuse. So that's gonna be a no, No, they just give her like, Tylenol. Hell. Yeah, but also, you know, what does sock is like that really would be shitty. If you were in pain if like you had an addiction and they literally wouldn't give you drugs like that fucking suck. I think she's sorry sweating. I know she's fine. She's doing great. And then she asked for Vicodin to I think

24:07 or I don't know. She's like, how about Vicodin? Like I still got that in there. Just like nah, dude, that's what that's what they offer first. Yeah, like oh, there's this other one. Yeah, like a stronger one. Yeah, she tries to get the really good. Good. Don't even give her the Vicodin. It's like you blew it. You could have at least gotten a Vicodin out. They fucked up offering around the first place. I'll stick a spike in and I've never tried it. I don't really like like to. I don't really like to promote people. Trying any painkillers for fun, but you might have a different side to it. No, I mean, I would never ever promote

24:37 that. Like now not familiar what I mean. Like, I'd be pretty pissed. If we had a kid and I found out they were like, stealing of, I ain't killers. Are like Mega addictive. Yeah, no bueno. Don't do painkillers. No. But yeah, it makes sense, why she'd be like tempted. I mean, you're in a hospital. They're everywhere. Anything else about the hospital that you found interesting? I mean, her comparing sitting in a hospital bed to lounging in a pool chair. That's where I kind of do the line. I was like, okay, like, no sound of beeping. I'm like, the warm, like

25:07 gross overused are draft. That's not the same as like being in the Maldives on. I'll a shared by the ocean Bruce kind of fucked up. Like she's had a gnarly life and this is what passes for a vacation for her, which is a bummer. But You have it. She likes a couple days in the hospital with me and maybe of her lying in the hospital bed as Shrek. Yes. So then we get this really cute scene ever and Shoals. They're getting ready for prom. What a big night. High School prom is I mean going to prom

25:37 to go or not for me, but for many products OK that was the first time you drank I did drink for the first time like not wasn't the first first time, it was the first time with people when people drink for the first time with people. After prom, which was fun. I did not drink it my prom, but sorry sweaty. Anyways, we won't get too far into that because we might on an another episode. Maybe touch on her High School. Yeah, stay tuned for an episode on high school experience as well. Page in high school Alex. Very different, very different. Not be more different

26:08 but they're getting ready for prom and it's cute. I mean it is Q because I kind of United and also I forgot to mention in the hospital that it is kind of like a sincere moment where you can tell Jules is feeling. We already Oh, she's overwhelmed by the fact that Rue like, is depending on her a lot. But like now I'm kind of at the point where I am a little bit empathetic toward Jewels because I'm like, yeah, that would fucking suck, like, you like care about someone. You love them and they're in the hospital and you know, it's because you like you went away for just a weekend. Like that's a lot of pressure to take on a high schooler. Yeah,

26:39 so it's kind of a mixed bag in this episode but she's these are sometimes when she's being really good. She's being real nice to her in the hospital and then when they're getting ready, if she's saying, she looks fucking amazing. I think it's cute sooner makeup, and I think she has a lot of regret for like things that she's done and she, you know, and she opens up to her about Nate. So she's a little more like back to like good jewels and this moment. Yeah, we see the good jewels at the beginning. This is won't be that way the whole episode, but they're getting ready. And she also makes a joke about our Roux dresses, like Seth Rogen, which is

27:09 so accurate. It's 10 after I laughed out loud. The first time I watched that because I was like, I was always kind of trying to figure point. So what's the perfect when she's won? I know, he's so fucking funny. Yeah, but also in that scene, there's a part where Jules is like, like I have to tell you about Anna and like, look at this, like she does the background. Jules Jules is like, you would die for Anna, like, no re

27:39 would not diagram, and it would probably find Vienna and has an l.a. She's not relevant. She's on high school. Who cares? And also like, to be fair, they don't even show enough of an array or convinced. Just like, I know, I just naturally hate Anna and like that kind of like, makes it bias. But also they don't give us anything about her personality. That would be like, wow, like we should be so excited about meeting, right? Enjoy was just going on and on it's like get a clue Rudolph gonna be right here about your fucking Lover from l.a. Like come on and she's not her

28:09 lover. It's like you literally getting a club A Grave with her. Get a clue Jewel. This isn't mature pretty insensitive and kind of mature here and and she might not be aware of She's pretty naive and kind of immature. But also, just whatever. And then we get this great great scene. Probably weirdly one of my favorite scenes, when Nate's in a chair lit on fire. So cathartic, it's great. But it's also like they're both dressed. So well, their makeups amazing. And jewels, like, I things are so cool

28:39 that ass and like, her long that shirt shit. I just remembered something. I forgot to tell you about before this episode, when I gotta tell you about right now. Okay, so the other day, they were selling you for Ew, Scripps on Etsy or something like to raise money. What? And 1 of n, people have been timing that I just found this out to that. I meant to tell you this and I forgot but people have been like, posting them on line and stuff. Yeah, and in some early scripts, the show opens with Roo being with Nate funeral Andrew being like

29:09 I killed him. What they're like at the school and they're having neat funeral on the football field. Andrew is in the bleachers and she's like, tell saying all this say that About Nate. And then she's like, and yeah, I killed him. Oh my God. Murdered Nate. So early versions of the Euphoria Scribd. Wow, that'd be like that. So, you know, maybe season 2 will see the culmination of that. Maybe that's murder the interesting. I want to look at that after. Yes. I totally forgot about that. So right now.

29:39 That's great. That's crazy. That would be weird. But, yeah, like I love it. What does she say? She's like, you're a fucking pussy or something. She's like, yeah, like he's a fucking pussy. That's what Jewell says. Only like shoot him like five or six on fire and they just like empty clip into him. It's great. It's really just like a very empowering scene for room Jewels together and I really love it. Yeah, and then we get Rhythm of the Night by the bars classmates and he's like, boy bandish group. It's kind of a perfect like I love 80s, right? Palm song, like think

30:09 it's hot out. It's a song you might play. When you're getting ready for. The bars are great. I doubt many of the kids these days. I know, I'm kidding like, imagine what they're really listening to, it's definitely Jake Allen fucking fool alone. Well, yeah, postpones. Okay. Yeah, I didn't mean that in a negative way and that's what the kids always until the can something our age. But anyways, so then we got the intro card, really simple and then we go right to the church and her mother's reading this like super super raw, emotional letter. Hmm. And I

30:39 guess your assumption was this is kind of like a mock funeral. Yeah. I mean this scene can be read. It's not super clear what this scene is. Yeah, it's not a nice way. I read this scene was that this was a like mock funeral as part of ruse rehab because that happens in the world. They like put on these very dramatic, like fake funerals where it's like, take a look at this. Like this is what it would be. Like if you overdose like, look at your family, they're all weeping.

31:10 They're giving speeches like here's the coffin and shit, like imagine it or like sometimes they even have people get in the coffin. They're like imagine this shit. Like that's that's part of I'm drugged, like, treatments. So, I initially thought this scene. I mean, I still think this scene is probably part of that, but it's pretty unclear. What it is ruse, sitting apart from her family. She has on the other eye, she is crying. So it kind of it would explain why re wasn't like sitting with her family, but also ruse, not really looking like super

31:40 reactive to what's happening. Chef sound to me and she looks like tears for me. I told Alex this earlier, I before my very first time watching you. Gloria, I immediately was like, fuck. This is her funeral and she's not really there. She's like a ghost. Yeah, you're not like, you know what I mean? When you say goes, it sounds stupid. But I literally did think that I was like, fuck. We're going to lose roof because to me, it's like, man, it was so emotional that I was like, there's no way. This is fucking fake but also like that was my very first time watching

32:10 it and then we'll get into it later. But like it was then even more confirmed when I saw the end scene because I really thought through died. So I was like, shit, that was like, her funeral. I still think it is pretty ambiguous. What this scene is. Well, you're missing Ali, wasn't there, which is not love if he wasn't there, it was weird. But like, it is strange that, like, they don't even, like, Panda him or anything or wouldn't he be there? Why would he be there? Oh, never mind. I always think it's the a group or you're saying this is right when she gets out of rehab. And I was thinking this was part of her rehab program. Kata-kata, like part of sorry. I fucked

32:40 up. I thought like it was her little like a, a group. I don't act like a funeral and it's like invite your parents. No, I don't think you do that. Some point about ali, which is that he kind of gets dropped as a character. He's a little bit, he's a great character and they bring it man. And he teaches Road important lesson. I really like bottom in the next two episodes. If they don't really ever go back I couldn't continue to be like a mentor figure turu. Yeah, like checking in before prom. I mean, there's a lot

33:10 more sauce on her wrist. Yeah. I mean there's a lot of ways he could have continued to be this like Mentor / like Father Figure to her. Have invited him over for dinner, drop him, which is kind of a bummer. I really like always gotta hook them up with the mom. Yeah, I mean to be her father. Oh my God, maybe all we I mean we saw it's hard to say whether all these a ghost or not because he kind of gets dropped. I don't think he is at all but like yeah, I know you mean every watching the season? I thought he was in it more. And then I was like, yeah, he really does just kind

33:40 of disappear. I hope we see some more Ali in season two because I like him but he does serve the purpose of teaching Rue. The very important lesson that Jules is kind of like her new drug and that's Pretty. That's a pretty important moment in the show through like realizing that tunneling. So he doesn't maybe he will be in season 2. We can kind of talk about it then because I now that I'm my thoughts are Brewing now. I'm like he'll probably be a heavy presence in season 2 if she indeed did Relapse at the end of this episode, spoiler alert, but you, all should have already seen the show. I mean, come on, don't listen

34:10 to this. If you haven't watched the finale all the way through, we shall see. So then we transition really into a montage of so many different things happening at prom. And Honestly, I was telling Alex this episode was hard for us to kind of like bullet point what we wanted to talk about because it hops around so much. So we kind of just like we're not like necessarily going in chronological order because this hops arrives. So we're just gonna jump through a lot of the prom shit. Yeah, but I really like this are broadly cover prom. Absolutely. This might be my favorite. I think

34:40 it is my favorite episode and I do actually love that. It does that I like that. It's so fast-paced and like you're just getting so many different characters stories. He's and I will just really quickly say this, I listen to like, a Sam levenson interview, and it kind of aligned with what I love about Euphoria. And it stuck with me, which is that he said, Euphoria is such a great show because you do deeply care about each character. Meaning like you're wanting to know like that there you have empathy to each character. Even if you don't like them, I

35:10 know you won't agree, but for me it resonated because I'm like, yes, like every character except for Nate and even sometimes it's very, very, very like few. Ends, but there are some small times, like when they hitting his head on the ground later, we talked about your, I do feel a little bit of empathy. So I like that, like, it's true there. It's very rare. I've watched a television show where I deeply care for each character to the point where I'm like, I really want to know like what happens to them. Like I want to know like you're like worried about them. In other words, even if

35:40 you don't like them really almost stressed or like, I just want to know that they're like, they're alive and like they're doing, okay, I guess. Like, I don't know, for me that resonate and I thought that was interesting. Because I've never had that in a show. I usually, like, I hate people. I love people. That's it. That scene is interesting. The head hitting one because it's it's a well-acted and it's a super intense scene, but it does kind of come across a little bit, like a last-ditch effort to like, give you a little empathy for made. Its a little, feels a little manipulative in that way where it's like, yeah, hold

36:10 up. You've hated this guy, the whole season. He's been a piece of shit. But in the last episode, we're going to give - you want some bad. I'm totally butt. That I mean, yeah, I just thought it was an interesting hard, not to feel bad for the guy after that scene, but like still fucking yeah. I was just curious if like other followers or fans felt the same way because I definitely feel that way. I almost like, like you said, it's like hard to hate characters. Like you think Caribou pretty invested in the characters? Storylines, regardless of whether you like them or not? Like a good. I think a good example is McKay. Like, yeah, I

36:40 don't but we obviously are not huge fans of McKay but like he still is an interesting character and you're still invested in his storyline. Yeah. You want to know what happened? And how is it? Affected from the weird rabies. Yeah, which is interesting because he does not show up at all in this episode. We get 0 McKay is around. Look at the sodium just kind of sucks. It's like the finale to the weird thing about that too. Is He's listed very prominently in the credits, but he's not in the episode. Interesting. He's like top five in the credits for this episode. We're and I won't but it does not

37:11 appear. That is that's interesting. I never thought of that. Well, so yeah, we're going to get right into prom. So problems, crazy. The first of all, though, All seen that up. For prom is so great. I love the school. I love the coloring. I love the Stars. I just love it. I think it's so like, I don't know. I feel like prom can be so whatever. Like my prom was like want want like not cool. So I kind of liked it was so euphoric, if you will. I just, I don't know. I love the way they shot it. I'll even their problem though is a little bit of

37:41 a little while, but you know what? I mean? It's very pleasing. Like, it's very you for, it's nice. But in terms of like epicness doesn't really approached like We nor the party from the first episode terms of being like a significant real rager. Yeah, but yeah, I just liked like the look of it. It was very like, oh, like when they're first walking and I love that scene over and jewels, like, kind of, like, looking at each other. I'm looking up like, all excited. It's just like cute. It's like, it's prom and pre-prom. We get ruined Jewels, doing their photos, and their parents are hanging out together,

38:12 drinking wine and making jokes about the hard alcohol. Funny. That's so funny. And then like really like pretends like, shoot up. Yeah. Room Like, don't worry. I'm not triggered. It's okay Kylie. It's just hilarious to see the reactions because, like her mom's date. What is it Rick? Rick, Rick? He's just kind of like nerve-racking Jules is like, oh my God, like, real you doing. But it's funny. Wait, right now. Know the risk that the moms dating. Is that his name? Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying like he was right there when she was like, oh, don't worry. I'm not Trigger.

38:42 Look, like Rick was just kind of like, oh, no, that's bills. Dad. Rick's not in this episode. Yes. No, it's hard a door that stuff. Baby, no Jewels dad. That's Jules Dad Andrews mom hanging out before they go to prom. Oh my God. Oh my God. You were saying it was Ruiz bad. I was like, oh my God, it's got his dad. Got there. Like hanging out pretty well. I think that like how that's cute. That's even better. I know that's why I like that scene here, like hanging out, making it notes. Getting there getting to know

39:12 each other do that would suck a video to they'll ruin everything. Well, I know I would be especially everyone Jewels like have a big falling out and then get the parents dating, you know. Well, chemistry, they were having some drinks. They're like gasps. I mean, I feel so stupid now. I thought it was Rick. I don't know why. Anyways, prom Montage, here we go. Lots of stuff going on. We'll talk, you know their outfits later, or maybe we'll talk about him now. I don't know. I absolutely adore. Maddie's dress. I would just die to wear that

39:42 in my high school prom. That was my favorite. I mean, they all look. They're all really look great. I think so. I think. Yeah, I would agree for the most part. They're they show up. Yeah. Listed at the round table. And we got this instant kind of like heart-to-heart discussion of peaking in high school. Yeah, they have a lot of, there's a couple discussions of this episode about the nature of high school that are that are good and kind of reflect the different opinions on it. Yeah, and we've got

40:12 houses, is the most. We were saying like a theme like Seas were the most accurate and jewels a little bit. Yeah, we get we get Cassie and Lexie getting. For prom to and Cassie has really cool Angel lamps. Yes. It's on her like a when he calls like are cosmetic table. Her vanity. Yeah, they're so cool. A few. If any of you for Ian's re-watch. You have to look like her little side. Lamps are so dope, the really cool fucking cool. And then the mom sends them off the prom.

40:42 They're at the table with everyone. And yeah, Cassie kind of has the she's of the opinion that high school is kind of like the last great moment of know. Responsibility and fun. And then from there on, it's like my bills and boring husbands and houses and all this shit and then Jules is very much of the opposite opinion, which is that high school. Is this very like suffocating place where it's hard to be yourself and there's all these like bullshit standards and it's very oppressive. And then once you're out of high school,

41:12 it's likes world is opened up and you have so much like possibility and there's so much you can do with your life, and you know what? I just thought of this, but we will absolutely revisit. So I'm going to do our little like page announced High School episode because I have a lot of thoughts about it, but I don't know if I want to like dive in now, but like I'm a little more on Cassie side, but I know you're probably more Jewels. I'm on the Jew because of our high school experiences. Now, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think it also probably relates to whether you're a person that peaked in high school or a person that peaked out of high school. Like I think you

41:42 could generally say that people that are high school, peakers are of the mindset that like, this is the this is the rest is all downhill shot. Whereas the people that are like, Non high school peakers or the ones who were like, just get me the fuck out of high school. I don't even need to be out of here. Everything is about to get so much better. The second huddling ice. I feel that so we'll have this like great discussion. Honestly, we were saying that like, in this moment Maddie's kind of a bitch, like they all kind of go around and like talk about where they're at in life Andrews, like like

42:13 I don't know, like or I don't know what she says, but she says something and then Jules is like, oh, but you've been sober for three months, like be stoked about that and then Maddie's like, but weren't you in? You had like six months ago. It's like shut. Yeah, she's like there were three months when I thought you were dead. Like she's being a real bitch to Roux which is totally unwarranted. Yeah, and weird. It's like, why a problem. Would you bring up real? Most dying? Just not the right time or place Jacob's, which is worse than going to rehab? Exactly. So you're like, the last one that gets to talk. Also shot. Look

42:43 at no real like makeup between cat and Maddie either. They kind of just stir like the kind of I each other across the table, like it's cool. But like there was no a real like conclusion to their drama from the last episode either. No. Closure at all. We don't know if they're good or not. But Maddie being so then yeah, look who's mean or rude to start so and then Jules phone is but oh wait, no first Justice for BB. What the actual fuck? Why is where is Julian Janice? She was she

43:13 was invited to the dramatic abortion sit down, but she doesn't get invited to the prom table and what the hell? I don't understand and it sounds like it's like, oh, I see. Have anyone to go with because almost all of them are there alone. So this isn't like, oh, she didn't have a date or something. No, should honestly, she's too cool for prom. But you know, he's, he's like it. She's like the laugh of the party that I was like, this is like she will be be as though and I would love to have seen babies prom outfit. I'm pissed. I think she would have worn like an oversized motorbike jersey with like lace

43:43 up like high-heeled boots and like an update. Oh, she probably be in like a really like skanky dress. Yeah, but like in a good way, the real He likes kinky. Like prom dress. That's like a little tiny wet and laughs. Yeah, cool. Well, you know what? Justice for BB and honestly like I want to know why she wasn't inserted in the finale. There's no justice there. Well, other than that at prom, there's a couple of other things that happen. Do you want to talk about cat and Ethan's little Rendezvous? Yeah, cat a sweet cat

44:13 kind of makes. It makes it good with Ethan. Well, I think it's because they're all talking about life and like it kind of like hits her like fuck. I need to make a move because she gets up. Fucking darts. Like she doesn't say, like, hey guys, I'll be back. She just like, be like pre-prom to. We seek out with her mom and she's putting on her outfit and she's feeling like not the hottest, which is sad, but I think City overall this whole episode cats really like she's feeling the heat. She's kind of like having the she's having the breakdown. Everything's

44:43 been wild for cat. She's had some crazy weeks whole day. She went from banging McLovin the like online twerking for money and like not that long. Long, she's been a rough stage to Ethan. Who's just been like sweet boy. So now she's kind of like it's all coming to a head. It's all it's a lot. I'm feeling my great about herself. It's all so sad. Come back to. It's also sad because I watched also another interview of all the cast, like, talking about how it was like film their character. And

45:13 she like, got super emotional, like, almost started crying. She was like, I like, I don't really to cat meaning, like I had pay pigs. I had all this stuff going on, but I know what it's like. Like put on a dress and feel like shit and bring up a pig's, not everybody at. But yeah, like she was just saying it, like filming. That was really tough because it was almost in a way like therapeutic. Like she was literally like reliving like, her actual high school life. So she was like, when I was like crying in the closet, for instance, like, putting on that dress, like that wasn't like me having to really work out for that scene, like literally felt like I was

45:43 re-enacting like growing up being a teenager, especially her being in the Limelight. She has like a family of Hollywood actors and actresses. So, I don't know, I just thought, like, oh, that made me like, kind of even more. I already have so much empathy for cat. But like it's cool that like she was able to like project the realness of it. It's not just like phony. It's like, she really went through that in her real life. And then it's, yes, I'm Katz, obviously at a realist and this episode. Yeah. So yeah, she even cats and it's so cute. Yeah. She goes over to eat, then. He's real sweet.

46:13 He says he's so forgiving to try really hard to not be the one to break her heart. Highschool of it's really cute though. It's good, too. She, like, totally is vulnerable. And then all the girls were like, yeah, Lexie Lexie, y'all something? Cause he's like, oh my God. Like, Lexie. I love you. She's just drunk. And is like hooting and hollering. Yeah. We love likely Ms. Yeah. I love drunk Lexi. She's great. She's fucking, we don't like the all inhabit. Yeah, strong clocks work like City's Bond rating. Obviously, more drunk. Like she's also reminds me the most of me.

46:43 She's a very like goofy. Very like she's a goofy drunk, but she's very rational and like high school is bullshit, which is how I was. Like I had No fun in high school because I hated everyone, I thought it was all a bunch of dramatic bullshit. And I like didn't have any fun because of that and that feels pretty close to a Lexi isn't these episodes? She's like, this is all like so dramatic. None of this matters. This is also successfully so it doesn't take it too. Seriously. Is there anything? Oh, so then you know, we got Jules phone buzzing off

47:13 the fucking hook and guess who it is. Stinky Anna. It's stank-ass like fuck off. She's at our prom. Leave her alone. She's like I'm I bet you wish you were here. It's like oh my fucking whatever Joe runs away to the bathroom to text her. Yeah. It's just kind of a silly. Like I don't even really need to go into that much like she threw goes off to her, to find her Andrew kind of goes in the stall with her and I think Jules is like, hoping this will work. I almost feel like Jules does this on purpose that she so that rule will be like, where's Jules? Oh my God. I gotta go find her, and she knew

47:43 that was going to end up there. Because when she goes in the stall, Jules is all like seductive. And like, oh, like almost like I knew you'd be here. I think Jules like this. All episode. Now that she's kind of seen this, this world in this life. I think she's kind of trying to go Drew into like, being about that life. Like, she's like, have you ever been bitten? Like, would you like it Andrews, like not feeling it and then she's doing the same thing here. She's like training, go up, and do you mean I would be aggressive, and kiss her and stuff. Basically, like wanting she, it's almost feels like she's wanting

48:13 rude, like, be Hannah and that me get her to like, conform to these behaviors and do these things, and it's not hourua is, it's not working, and like, it's awesome. Really loves root which is sucks. Like as a friend. If you were to remove the romance factor. It's like a fruit acted like that. You guys wouldn't even be best friend. Right? Those are the things that she ever loved about real, and it's a good for Rue because realize, like wanted jewels forever and she was basically, like, make out with me. Andrew, is being true to yourself and is like, this isn't really like it, like this one. However, I want. It doesn't feel raw like this is all really

48:43 like me or us in a stinky High School, like Phil Campbell's, girls bathroom in there. There's people, I will drink you. Oops. And Drug poops. And yeah, tuna salad for sure like way too much perfume and shit. Yeah. Oh, I can't even talk about it. So other than that, is there anything else like within prom that you want to talk about as? But now we're going to skip to me and Maddie hooking up unless you have anything else that you thought was a significant within like the prom

49:14 Montage if you will, because like we said, it skips around so much. What do you think about everyone's outfits? So I already said I love mad. Door at. Like, I literally died for. I love the earrings. I love the little like half Veil. I just think it's so hot so different and she looks just fabulous Cassie. You like because she's very like natural. Yeah. I think Kathy goes with like the very natural. Look like she just kind of in like a pale pink or something. She's really have any makeup on, very likely

49:44 intentional. It's supposed to be like, her being very pure. It's like, she just went through this really traumatic event of like the abortion. So, like right did that? Intentionally to kind of like show that she's a little more confident. Yeah, and she's very kind of like the whole like virginal natural thing kind of plays with the episode because now she's had the abortion McKay is not in the episode at all. She's very like non-sexual cries. She's not unlike attached to men in this episode. Hopefully and I love Kathy outfit. I mean, it's very fitting for her

50:14 character. I know she didn't feel her basket. Like she's certainly, I know you other than the hair and I agree with you now that you've told me I do, but I think overall like her makeup is great. I love the look. I think she should have walked in feeling really confident. It's a bummer. She didn't because I thought she looked great. Yeah, I like I like the dress. Like I think it totally works. It's like her style but it's kind of cool. It's working flattering. But oh man, I feel so bad for her because they gave her, this haircut

50:44 that is just horrendous and immediately. When I saw it. I was like, oh my God, I knew exactly what it reminded. In me of and if you've ever seen the 80s Conan the Barbarian with Arnold Schwarzenegger, there's three characters who are villains that just have the exact same haircut as her and I've all them a picture of it earlier and it is the exact same haircut. That's so I just immediately was like, oh my God, she has the Barbarian haircut. Like it is not flattering, her fall, and her hair's look great. In other episodes of the season.

51:14 I don't know why they had to do her like that. With that off the awful, like bangs, like almost mullet thing. Then we have jewels. Which weird Is not a fan, a fan at all. And I know that we are definitely the, you know, where the opposing and on this because all the followers and fans of euphoria, just adore her outfit. I was he was opposed by that notion that we obviously like stand for everything. That like the symbol on the back of her shirt is super dope. It's Opera stands for everything. Good. Everything Jules is about we're absent.

51:44 The best part. I mean that part totally works the clear transport. Well, we're being critical right? The clear Trend flip the symbol on the back. Is great. Its political it looks cool. That's totally works. It's the rest of it that I'm like roof. Like, I don't know why then black hair black hair, only in the front, like a skunk or something, is like not working at all. It's just a little, the thing under the trench coat, like none of it really like works and it's kind of shocking because Jules could have put together. So that's just wrong. And even that trench

52:15 getting the like the jacket could have gone with so much. I was thinking about possibly about are, is what there is about the most Really? Yeah, I don't even necessarily hate what she's wearing underneath. I just hate their, you're so distracted by the skunk are don't even see the outfit. That's how I feel. Yeah, not and the makeup isn't bad, but it doesn't match anything. It's just kind of. It just doesn't click for me. Agree, not here for it. And then Rue I've been really looks beautiful. I really do. Yeah, really think she's simple

52:45 but like you've are Euphoria with the glitter and the Stars. Classic theme of this show ruse, dressed way better than anyone gives her Credit for including she looks great. That's it for everyone. Jules drastic. So Jules did a good job dressing room. She's not herself. What about Lexi? She's simply but she looks like very high school. Look. Yeah. She looks like they did a good job and her mom's like you look beautiful. Which I love that part because you always hear the mom, kind of like, giving Cassie

53:15 the compliments. I think it's on purpose, but we always see her like, oh, my daughter, like beautiful. So I thought it was really cute because you could tell like We felt really confident and like, happy walking down the stairs, because her mom was like, you just look so beautiful and Cassie kind of just like let her have the the spotlight and like let her have that moment. Get it Lexi. So then now we have Nate and Matt. Well, we're just going to talk about this incident because it happens like in between all this shit. Yeah. Well, they're doing the whole prom thing there. Intercutting to all these other leg over the fence that happened like concurrently or prior

53:45 to prom so Nia and Maddie are like hooking up. Well, they're not hooking up because Nate cannot get it up. Yeah. They're trying to trying to bang. And for some incredible reason, Nate has decided that he's gonna lie about having a hard-on. Yeah, it's just hilarious because you can't lie about it, you jurors you I don't harder. You don't Maddie cause she's like, what do you mean? You don't know and then he chokes her ago. Oh, I forgot. It's just fucking crazy and he screams at her and then she's not getting the prom invite after that and

54:15 you know what? Who gives a fuck but then she leaves and I love it. She's wearing this like two-piece like Juicy Couture. Looking like a Her eyes are like raccoon eyes from crying because the sun fucking Choate. Kyle son. Fucking choked her. Yeah, and she's like walking down the stairs and Cal has this like such an annoying little like exchange with her pretty much being like you're a distraction and like both of you aren't good for each other like, you know, so much. Oh, you're so wise Cal like, go back to your fucking better and watch her. Poor HRS of this whole weird talk to like manipulating like

54:45 and that is not happiness, but not like dating Nate anymore, and she's just like God, like your entire families. It's so fucking weird, which is great the most accurate thing that he's ever said. Like that family is so fucking weird. It is and also like once again, back to just horrible parenting. Like you're in high school and your son's just like fucking Maddie like loudly like they when they fuck it's like but it's like banging against the wall, like, he's choking her. Like this is a lot of noise. I don't care how big your house is like the door shut and then she leaves in

55:15 the dad, won't even like a little. Like, at least act like you're mad that, like you just heard them banging in the room, but like, there's just Rules. It's like, oh, you're a junior high school. That's okay. That's fine and Jacobs family, but she doesn't leave empty-handed. Because while Nate is off showering after their hookup. She grabbed, she sneaks over to the book and finds a little something-something bookmark, a little disk, a little secret of Cal's old hook up with some bullshit. So she snags that and also seeing

55:45 that seen that Nate has a bunch of hugging Dallas Cowboys memorabilia. Like big surprise. Is that cowboy? As fan, it's the douchiest and you could be into other than the pain. I can't talk shit on them at all because my job seek, we took it for them. Don't make me and that's position. Anyway, don't put me in the shower and got his bathroom. Looks like a fucking serial killers kill room. Okay. Now they talk about people having the kill room where it's just like of empty, like room that you can, like, spray down. So you can get rid of all the blood, like, yeah, it's bad.

56:16 Eat, bathroom is a fucking kill room. It's terrifying. I could never be in there and be comfortable. Absolutely, not. So what's nice about the finale is we do get a little bit of like a wrap-up on Cassie's episode before this, which is that her mom takes her her and Lexi actually go with her, which is really sweet, but she has to go through like the trauma of getting an abortion which obviously is a very heavy topic. It's not like a super light thing that you can just brush it under the rug. But, I mean, I was telling olives earlier. I mean, for

56:46 any woman, this is absolutely traumatizing, but also, I think they do a good job. Above really showing like the Nitty Gritty - of having to like go into an abortion clinic like just going through the process. They make it very realistic. First like drama looks like a soap opera if you will, they actually like show like all white walls, like ones. He's getting the surgery. Meaning. It should be like a warning to anyone who's out there young and having sex without protection.

57:16 Like it's not fucking like no big deal. It's fucking terrifying and awful and like, Any traumatic and it just everything about it? Like I just had chills watching it when you can like hear the drill starting up or whatever. The vacuum that the doctor is is and like him just nonchalantly being like we usually give our patients these headphones like listen to a song like here you go and just like that's what they're there to do. Like they do they perform abortions daily. So it's just like very like run-of-the-mill where for Cassie. She's like totally traumatized. She's obviously like so

57:46 scared sad. Like so many emotions, so I don't know. I just thank you for you. Did a really good job. Above like, showing the full process but not making it like overdramatize were like, I don't know. I don't see glamorize because that seriously like the the minutiae and the banality of the the process. It's just like being at the dentist for everybody but you when we also have you're all just going about. Yeah, it's just really medical procedures, but for you, it's very like traumatizing thing. So it's a weird. Yeah, Todd's relationship exactly.

58:16 But luckily she's got her mom, her sister there. I was just going to say that's like the big plus is that also It's very rare that people have to go through that. Unfortunately don't have the support. She did. So like thank God. She had her mother and Lexie there. But yeah, it's just overall as a woman. It's really hard to watch. I definitely got a little emotional watching it because it's like, fuck. That would just be the worst at that age. I can't even imagine at any age that any age of course, but I mean like especially at that age, I wasn't even having sex at that age so I can't even imagine, but like damn, so Sydney's winning

58:46 just executes that also. Well, and I also really obviously love her. Her makeup look is so iconic when they show her ice skating. It's like her big Grand Finale if you will, it's like her coming. It's like very metaphorical. It's like her coming out of this abortion like stronger and like a little more clear-headed. I think I think she has a better idea of like her future. That lies ahead. At least she thinks she does. But yeah, that's crazy. That she goes. Ice skating right after abortion. Probably not healthy, right? So it's not a it's not a fart. I don't think she's actually but like yes,

59:16 I think it's more dreamlike. That's like another Fantastical part of it. Yeah, but also we were like, we weren't joking is obviously abortions, not funny and the scene. And no means is like something to laugh about, but we were kind of like, what the fuck's song. Would you listen to? If you were like, in a, such a traumatic moment, like that, like, that would suck, because of whatever song you chose would be ruined for can't. Listen to it ever again. No, I mean, I really even want to listen to, It's just like ooh All-Star by Smash Mouth. Okay, maybe it wasn't a big, she loves track motivational. But yeah, it would just be awful

59:47 all around. Just awful. Like, let's move on. Let's just such a depressing day. Topic then we got Nate and Kyle's Infamous. Like yeah, this is much less depressing. I'm suppressing and kind of fun to see. I don't like when they're pressing. It's so fucked up. I know. But I kind of like seeing the Nate take his anger out on cow for the first time NATO. I'm saying though. I kind of like it because I don't think I like it. Of course. It's really sad, but I like that like Cal is finally seeing the outcome of like his bad parenting meaning like he walks away from me.

1:00:17 Totally freaked, the fuck out. Yeah. He is like my son is Fucked up, but yeah on the other side of it. We are seeing kind of the back to the Oedipus thing. We're seeing it kind of all in one neat. Probably wants to fuck his dad, but he also wants to kill his dad like we're mates. Mom basically just isn't in the equation. They want to both fuck and kill his parent, which is just Cal. He doesn't really have any. That's your thought. I'm not side with you on that, but I've been here man. I mean, he's on the verge

1:00:47 of like makeout /. We think not. I'm kidding. He's not there's no sexual tension. Nate wants to fucking kill his dad in the scene that is crying too. I mean, this is like she steps to he stops the cowl. The he thinks he's the big man. He thinks he can finally step up to his dad and Cal shows him otherwise and that does not go down. So well now it doesn't go down. Well, we were reading. I always thought that I think it's true. Jacob already got a concussion doing this. I'm pretty sure they said that obviously clear. Well, Sam

1:01:17 levenson said that obviously like on any size, especially HBO. They have like hired nurses. They they're very, very safe. Also, the floor was padded. Yes, but even with padding though, what he was alluding to is even with padding, you could absolutely get a concussion and they did not know he was going to rise to the occasion like that. He, they were just absolutely sham on the scene. Yeah. I will write a couple or D. If you ever listen to this, like my God from kissing booth to this scene. You have just flourished. This scene is like Oscar

1:01:47 where they you should be fucking proud of yourself like going from Horrible. No offense, b-grade movie. I know you gotta do what you gotta do to get your shoe in the door and honestly, like kissing booth. I'm just like at this time, but like holy fuck, like as an actor. So respectable. I'm just proud. It's hardcore, is some fucking hell. It's like some heavy. Like, it made me feel uncomfortable. I was like, can we like wrap this up? I'm like really feeling uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean, hearing him scream or is a show of a lot of intense shit, but I low-key think this is one of the,

1:02:17 if not, the most intense scene in the entire show. Oh, this is like really, really? Yeah, fucking crazy. Yeah, so then we wanted to talk about ruin a obviously, their chat outside because Matthew and me are kind of like dancing together to get this little like well, no, they're not dancing either. They're like battling not. He's like grab some kind of asshole. Grab some guy. I love that part. She's like you and the guys just like, huh? It's like it's like, you know, he's like, yeah. Okay. Be

1:02:47 stupid to not be like, yeah, but like Maddie, I mean, I guess if you can dance but yeah, but he can dance, there are get it on so they get it on man. He's a good dancer too. She's so pretty hot. So Nick gets pissy. He walks out York sounds and herbs and damn room is like a cruise out there. Not feeling so hot about the no. No, she follows him. Oh, that's what she sees him. And she, she looks a jewel. She's like be right back, which is so badass, because she'll she goes on a mission and this is right after we get ruined Jewels, like basically, like flipping the bird, shooting the guns, an eight on the dance floor.

1:03:17 So great blow the whistle, which is a great student. Ballsy to because Jules was pretty freaked out by Nate. So for her to be so nonchalant and be like flipping him off at prom. Well, like she like like she goes on to say in this conversation. Ruis in this interesting situation where she's probably the only character in the specials has balls. Yeah, it almost doesn't matter, but

1:03:50 Also asked that I keep continuing to bring this up, but it's like we literally don't know the history between ruminate which I hope like kind of. It's also the to unfold a little bit of an interesting plot threads because they drop a couple hints. They did say that, you know, like me tried to finger Roux and they were like 14 on the dance floor or something. So that's like that that's not a history that I think we don't know about and they give each other. Some looks every once in a while and at the conclusion of this scene. He like tells her that she looks really beautiful or something but it is like very manipulative, weird name. Away,

1:04:21 but it still has some like undertones of something else. Good. Peru. That's about us. This is just like we're not really sure what but roo, roo kind of gives it to me in this scene a little bit because she is probably the only character in the show that has the upper hand on Nate. Yeah. It she just has nothing. She literally has nothing to lose already. Almost died. I don't give a fuck about her life even so like it's funny but like, you know, I know it's open season. Yeah, I can see her ability to fuck with me because Is really very little

1:04:51 he can do. He already fucked with FEDS, put you in the hot seat for not much you can do with our. I want to put you in the hot seat for a second. Do you think I just had this thought? Do you think that when he says she's beautiful, do you think that's just him, literally just being a scumbag? That's it, or do you think there is more meaning when we keep saying? Like, we think there might be a little more in their history. Do you think there was ever a point where maybe they had some sort of like, nor not normal, but like, maybe some sort of interaction, where he fucked her over, kind of like he did to jewels, because I feel like Rue comes out very strong.

1:05:21 Just hating me like hating him as I even like. Oh, he's just this dumb drop. That goes for school. He sucks. She clearly has a lot of like personal like issues with his family. And him. I'm just curious what you think. I don't know. I don't think there's enough to say. Yeah, true. There's a lot of part of me just wanders. Who's when he says that I told you like. The one thing I don't like about the scene as Roo goes out there. She makes it a point to like be a badass and like she does, but she lets him have the upper hand in a way because he walks away been like, I think you look beautiful tonight. Obviously not because there is a

1:05:52 loop. Yeah, he's not expecting that. And that's Nate specialty is manipulating people by, like, kind of like catching them off guard. Totally. But it just sucks, because I'm Ruth kind of silenced in a while and he gets to walk off like smirking and being his usual asshole. Sell he does. But at the end of the day, we still know. The Rue does have like an advantage over and he's like one of those like he won the battle but this could be a real one. The verbal basket be a ruins the war situation because until throw the salt behind them. She'll throw that. Salt by that's all, they'll even be

1:06:22 able to build any of cars homes. It'll be fuck. Oh, yeah, they won't be able to build a single photo Macintosh at that house. It'll be dead gone burned to the ground. Yep. But yeah, they're friends and family if you can't get them directly, but he's already fucked over jewels, and he's already fucked over Fez. So there's no Roadie really that. He has dirt on Andrews life that he can use like put in a squeeze on her. So true. She's in a pretty good power. Mission over an 8 for season 2. She

1:06:52 set up pretty well. She really is that maybe she'll kill him knows maybe that me. I really like just quick snippet of if we get a little bit of closure on Maddie and Nate as far as we know they have a slow dance together and I don't know I was telling Alex. I think this moment is a little bit like it gave me closure. At least. I feel like they kind of needed that because I like when she's like, we're just she says something like we're just not good for each other like she, which I think is pretty brave of her. Like, I will give Maddie a little bit of credit. It's

1:07:22 really hard to like come out of abusive relationship. And I think that was like her way of kind of like ending things and I I'm hoping that will stay that way. Meaning. I'm hoping Maddie has a wild and out summer and like Nate is just fucking gone like he's dead to her. I don't think that will be the case, but that's like my highest hopes for her. But I felt like she definitely kind of was like, tired. I think that was her way of being like I'm exhausted. Like this is not even worth the status, any more like it. Yeah, that they're both. Be real with each other. And

1:07:52 I think to me, it came across like, neither of them really cares that much about the other one. I don't think there's much love there. I don't even know if you would call it friendship, but they do kind of have this like comrade comradery through like villainy. Like they've both been really shady people and done really shitty people to stuff like together which other's deepest darkest secrets that they have a lot invested. Yeah, exactly. They know a lot about each other, they've done shady shit together. So there have this like this camaraderie action. They're like And they're fucked up this and then their villainy so

1:08:23 but it's not really like a real friendship. It's not romantic. We also love this part. I have to say before we forget is when the, his other like, bitch. I don't remember her name. So I would like she's just whatever the one that was putting her feet up on the dash. Like so fucking gross trashy, but then she goes to sit on the table and it's like, oh, where's that? She's like I thought this would be a night. I'd remember forever. But the best part is when she's like, I think this was I thought

1:08:53 this would be a night. I'd remember forever. And Lexi's like I think this is be a night. You'll remember forever, which is also something you would say drunk. You're very, you are really like, see when you're drunk. I'm pretty elec straightforward. So funny though. I just had to bring up that cute little line, but then after that we get ruined Jewels, they have this like kind of intense conversation outside and it leads to a lot of other shit. But yeah, pretty much is her very tenderly like Do you love me? And Joel says, yes,

1:09:23 she says. Do you love Anna? And she says, yes, which I'm like, what the fuck? Jules is on some bullshit. Here. You love. And how you met her once? Like, okay, like, even if I honestly wouldn't have even cared if she had said no to Route because they haven't even known each other all in my eyes. It's like, you have a really nice that, all right, but then you say, you love Anna. That's a bus up jewels in this like thing, where she thinks it's like adult and like cool and like, wild and free spirited to like love. Who love other people? Yeah, that you can love many

1:09:53 people or that she does love many people. Affair is okay because when you're in high school, you're very experimental. She doesn't mind. You're finding yourself whack. It's finding yourself very immature and it's like, girl, you don't know what it's like to love one person. I don't think she truly loves Rue or Anna or has ever truly loved anybody. Jacob's ruin. It comes a little closer, but I don't think that's even if she compared, you know, it was my problem which isn't a bad thing, but she compared root of Ali earlier in the episode, when they were getting ready number, I said it was so

1:10:23 fucking offensive that. She said, I love you would love. And I like, she's like family. Like, it was different than, like my dad are you. It was like another, like family member. And it's like, okay. When I gets hard though, when you're letting someone a family, the romance goes for a that's tough though, because Jules is obviously talking partially about like, the the like sexual orientation aspects of it. Like, she feels like she has another family in these people from LA. Because Are also going through like trans issues and I know, no.

1:10:53 I know. I'm just saying. I was like offensive don't even include Anna and any kind of like family discussion. But anyways, yeah, Jules is on some bullshit here being like I love you. And I also love her when in reality. She's barely knows either of them like she's known roof or at least a school year. So like she probably knows her decently. Well, she does. She's fucking two days. Like get out of here and she barely knows ruijven. So it's like doesn't because got here Jules and start having about this. Later, but she obviously doesn't know true because if she knew Russia wouldn't make the decision,

1:11:24 she makes later which we'll talk about. Yes, but any was awesome. Bullshit bullshit. This whole thing not happy with you. So cool. And like modern, which is a bummer. But anyways, the other place on polyamory shit like it's a fucking nerd. The only other thing I would say too is it's really, really sad when ruse, like, what does she say? She says, do you like She's like, is there anything you would change about me? Yes, that's right. Yep.

1:11:54 And rules lies and says that there's not she's actually lying but she says, do you wish I was different. Yeah, which is so sad because rule clearly has shown a special Halloween episode that she feels like a burden and that is just something you never want to feel like, especially around people, you were right. And to be honest. Once again, I am more and more finding out I relate to ruin so many levels because Alex knows this and our relationship. Like, I If anything, when I lost my dad, when I was 17,

1:12:25 anyone I met after that, that I grew close to, I always felt like a burden because I was going through so much. I was like super immature, very incapable of handling, my emotions and coping with death. So, anyway, I met, I honestly like, always felt like I was like, not good enough to be with someone because I just felt like shit. So that was like, I literally, like, Alex was there with me, eyeball. I like, I literally saw it every time I watch this episode, like, actually like full-on, like I can barely breathe. If but like that's like where the crying starts, is that like one moment? Because I know

1:12:55 what that feels like, like love someone or even be friends with someone and like, have to ask that hard question of like, do wish. I was like not like this. So that's like, so I'm not an addict but like it's all, it's all similar. Like, it's all integration credit. She says, the right thing. She's like no and is loving and likes. We do with her and not me. Yeah. So let's go away. Let's run to the she does. She does get some credit there and it's Ruth idea to like run away. I just don't ruin. Obviously just doesn't really like hasn't she hasn't thought this out. She hasn't literally thought out.

1:13:25 So we actually going to run away right now like to be further. Also, how many times have you and I been like let's respond to it. Let's go and like they're on a bike ride. It's like super immature. Like in my head. I'm like, I would never like take it to a literal. I wouldn't be like Jewels. Like, okay, hurry. Let's go home pack my bags. I would I know, I just wanted that. I'm always at the jewels in that situation. I'm like, oh, okay. Let's fucking do it. Like, let's go right now. Unlike real, I would say that out loud, but I wouldn't mean that. Yeah, and I would be the jewels of you like, yes, haven't

1:13:55 I done that before? I think I'm gonna totally, you always like, there's something out there, like, Ashley and I'm like, okay, let's do it. Like around like, no. No, never mind. No, and I'm like, what? Come on, like, let's do it. You wanted to do that. Let's do the thing. So what happens? But then we have to kind of bring up fast code real quick. He has a crazy fucking thing going on. There's not like much emotional depth here. Other than like, it's fucking insane. Like yeah. Those Stakes are high. So high. He Astrid isn't will look like a fuck after getting raided by the cops. Fusco. I was no drugs anymore to sell.

1:14:26 So he has to figure out how to come up with the money. I did a mouse. So he obviously knows about this individual who's a doctor within the network of like drug deal. Yeah. He's it seems like this guy's a supplier for their organization at some level. It's hard to know what like whether this is a good decision or not without knowing exactly like who this guy is and how he really don't know what like the Organization, because if he's their supplier and then Fez robbed him and then puts the money

1:14:56 back into the system. Everyone's going to know which seems like a really bad idea. But if he's the supplier for like a rival gang or something, it's a great idea. So we don't really know how good of a decision that we most in season two because I told you I read an interview another one with Sam levenson. He said that in season two absolutely has every intention of telling Pesco storyline. Yeah, so I hope we could learn but yeah man Fez Fez really ponies up. He gets on his gangster shit and he goes Goes, and he sneaks into this doctor's house. He goes, makes him. Oh wait, no. Been up his Christmas,

1:15:26 a fable, the video. Yeah. I have a. So, the doctors watching a movie. He's got a projector on, with some movie on, and I tried. So fucking hard to find out what movie this is. And I could not find out. They only show like a couple seconds of the film and its really short credits and I looked all over online. So if you happen to like, for some reason, know what movie? This is DMS, please tell me be. I don't know. He's dying. He really did, do the work. He put in the Lord's, work to try and find this video out for you guys. But like, it was really. I did all

1:15:56 no, I mean, I don't even think anyone cares, but I care. And I know they do. I was just actually going to say it's so funny. You said that because I actually think people really appreciate the details and I think it's really fun to know this especially because you always bring up the point that you for is very intentional and it's really cool. They actually pick things like aligned with the story and the theme. Yeah, so yeah. Actually I even would want to know. I don't know. Maybe I had no luck. So if you know what that is, hit me up. But yeah, the car. Coffee table, safe with all the like drugs and shut up. That's a sweet. Safe. That's a really cool safe. But

1:16:26 yeah, dr. Boy tries to make a move for a gun Fez. Has to beat the shit out of them sex offense to see his kid watch because it says, no such a good-hearted guy that, you know, they did that on purpose because he's like, fuck, you know, I do, you know that he's also. Yeah, we have to mention last episode, we were wrong. We said we thought that those killed this doctor. Oh, no, I thought that a million times. I thought that to be fair. Doesn't he doesn't have some after he just beats the shit out of much actually also in season 2 official find out. But that's really stupid because now you haven't

1:16:56 killed them. Now. He's just alive to tell the tale. You got a mask on though, right? True, but that's fine. Now, it's almost worse. If you kill him though, because then you have the heat of the police investigation. If you don't kill him, he's never going to involve the cause. He's a shady drug dude. So he's not going to the cops aren't involved. Now kill him. The cops are involved and that's bad. Totally. I just think they intentionally. Put that little child there to make Fusco have like a moral moment. Course they did. Because we all know Fez has like a pretty strong moral compass. He doesn't want to do this. He sees this as like the last ditch effort to

1:17:26 like fucking save him and ashtray from some real fucked up. Shit. Like he's, it's like balls to the wall. You gotta do what you gotta do. He doesn't want like, there's no way he wants to do this, obviously know. So and then he's obviously feeling the full consequences of it from this little son eivin. Watch his dad get beat up. But also, you know, that guy's asking for it, like, fear of the drug business, you know, Yeah, Chris Harrod and if you have a kid, you gotta know that. Like that's a rest. These are the rest. You could end up dead one day

1:17:56 and your kid could be an orphan like so fucked up, fucked up. World. The drug dealers won't go into that business. If you're not cool with, you gotta be better. So then we have the Epic train station moment. Now, this is a really, really tough scene for me and many people watching this. Mainly because we all have just been rooting so hard for Roo, and she really has come. So far in her soberness and it's growing as a person. So, while Jules is kind of taken a fucking back

1:18:26 seat if you will, and is being all immature. And like it's kind of like, self going into like self-discovery. If you will Roo's kind of like I'm not saying she's doing well. She's definitely like having a hard time. But also she's come a long way. So it's really hard to see her just fall apart in the scene at least for me. It's so emotional for me because it's like, she just loves Jewels so much and for Jill. Owls in that moment to not understand the like seriousness of. Like, I can't just fucking get on a train

1:18:57 and leave like my sister watched me OD. Like, that's so traumatic. My mom is like been such a sport. Like, let me go to prom with you because let me go to sleepovers. Like he's given me this freedom. I can't like abuse. That it's just not an option. Mmm. I love my family too much. Which to me is so sincere. And honestly, Joel should be like if anything like turned on by that. Like I feel like if I was in love with someone that was an addict and they have this like, Vulnerable moment of being. Like, I just can't do this right now. Like I have to like, make sure my family is okay. Yeah, anyone

1:19:27 will take a fucking brain would be like, you know, what? Oh my God. I'm sorry. Like, let's just take a breather. Maybe we'll go tomorrow. Like, but no Jules is too. She's got her mind set. Yeah, her, you were saying she wants to. I like what you said and I want to make sure you remember it. I liked what you said, how she's trying to like, form ruined who she wants you to be. Yeah, I think to a certain degree. She kind of wants her to be more of like an Anna now that she's like, seeing someone like this, I think she is in love with rude, to a certain extent like, but she wants

1:19:57 rude to take on these qualities. She wants to see like a more Wild Child, more adventurous room or like Reckless spontaneous, Roo. And while ruse, story arc is getting more mature, more responsible, jewel story arc is kind of getting more immature like Jewel starts out the series, being probably the more mature party. She's shown like Doing very little a little, so supportive of her. She's the one that tells really like, yo, I'm not going to be friends with you. If you're doing this, right? And then towards the end. She

1:20:27 like wants her to be like wild and it's all right. Jules really drills character are is in the downshift shitty gets like progressively more immature. She gets more into like drinking. She's making like, probably what are worse choices more questionable? Moral choices with the whole like Nate thing and the cops like the new thing did really fuck her up and it would fuck anyone up so I'm not, like, blaming it, but I'm saying like we do like forgive her certain things. Would you like she is young and she is going through some really traumatic shit. All right,

1:20:57 but it doesn't like, I mean, she's still a kid and it's okay that she is this level of immature because it's what's to be expected. But it's a bummer in relation to the maturity level. She starts out as she starts out a little above where you would expect her to be in, kind of comes down to the more, the median of what you would expect of someone her age, which is kind of shitty and selfish and everybody at that age is kind of like that. It's a bummer to see someone that for the first half of the show is a little more elevated, kind of like come down that we literally

1:21:28 just go into this beautiful like ending here and I, I know a lot of people have different opinions about this. I do think I will say most super fans, especially our listeners. I know the majority. It's very rare that like a big fan of euphoria, like, doesn't like the finale, like it's actually like known as like the best, but there are a lot of, like articles out there that think it was like a little silly, like didn't, Make sense. And you know what to that? I will say what I say, a lot to you about film and artsy weird, kind of more

1:21:58 like obscure shit. I feel like if you don't like something just because it's different and odd and you don't feel comfortable with it. I don't think that means it's bad. I think everyone was hoping for this, like, normal TV ending of like Maroon Jewels running off in the city together and that being the end but like, all the articles I was reading their complaints about it just like weren't valid. It wasn't like, oh the music saying, The real answer. Yeah, I'll show you later. I didn't really get to talk to you about it. But like the whole area of under Vanity Fair, pretty good things to say about it. Oh see

1:22:28 I was reading software. There were like it was kind of sloppy. It felt like jarring. It was very like random like all the sudden she's singing which is funny because normally yes, like I told you this when you're watching it if it were anyone but Sunday are doing that scene at the very end. Like I really think I'd be like this is kind of weird, but she and Labyrinth working together and making that such an emotional piece. Really? I think really like worked and I I guess even though I love musicals. You know me. I love cheesy shit.

1:22:58 I do think if it had been anyone else I would have been like this is kind of like fucking weird, but I loved it like which is weird for me. I don't know if I would like love this. If it was someone else or if it was a good different song. I don't know how to explain it, but it was really like powerful for me. I think. First time I wash it, it floored me. I was like sobbing. Like I was just like what the Fuck. Did I just watch? Like I just watch true. I told you, I thought she died. So me watching like the scene of her like

1:23:28 which I read to you earlier. Sam, like definitely wrote this very carefully and had a lot of thought behind it. And she's like wearing she walks in. They carry her dad out on a stretcher which like for me. I just fucked him lose it. Every time I see that I can relate to that 100% losing my dad at a young age. Like, I've literally seen the same scene. Seen my dad being carried out, same thing. So for me, I'm not Laughing but like that's super triggering. So I'm always exciting at this part but then like she grabs her dad's sweater or hoodie, or whatever and it's so symbolic because

1:23:58 it's like her. I guess how I read it to you earlier. Sam levenson was saying, it's kind of like her like dealing with loss. It's literally hurler putting on the burden of like her dad's loss. And then later it's a very like it's a very like plane symbolism. When we find out that she puts on the, the hoodie that it's like she song goes down from here. You realize that she's carrying the burden of like this grief and his death and his memory, with her throughout the whole show when you see her. But you don't really know the whole shot because

1:24:29 she's not, she's it's, she is literally carrying it with her. Yeah, throughout the show, Jason barring his hoodie. But yeah, I mean the end is I think it totally works. It worked. Definitely works for me. I didn't I didn't even think it was that weird. I wasn't that surprised, which I think is funny that I will say. I thought you were going to hate it because you don't like musicals, you know, I think it was a culture, she's singing and it's very Theatrical and you usually do not like that. Yeah, I totally, I do like, I have mix. I'm going to pick an Aussie. Why do you like it that? Or why are you like, okay with it? Because I work sits, well,

1:24:59 any show you would be like, this is so fucking stupid. I know you don't know. It works and it's well, executed and I have some problems with the ending but one of them is not the execution. I think it makes its great like it's beautiful. You see? Like all you get like a quick primer of like ruse life. Basically like you see ruse mother at her absolute worst. Hitting Rue kicking her out. G is like, what the fuck in the moms? Like, you can go after her? Like, I don't care. Angie is straight up to her. Mom is like,

1:25:29 is this very proud of yourself? Like she really see? Like, you see the dysfunction of the family. I miss ya. And you see ruse monitor absolute worse. You see what ruse addiction is like done to her family. You see what the debt father's death has like the effects that it's carried out, all these people, highly emotional. Yeah. So I mean, it's and it's set to this music and stuff. So I think it's a beautifully done seen. I think it's really well. Acted. I think it's, well, executed the music the Montage. Like, I it totally works and

1:25:59 then they have this whole sequence at the end, which is super cool. Very well planned out. They have the choreographers, a full band. I mean, they went all out, like, robes. It's very like almost like religious, but like very haunting and like he said, it's, I guess you so you can talk about your qualms in a minute, but I'll first outline, what Sam, really thought because I didn't know this until About it today, but his intentions for writing this end scene and he said, he actually didn't really write it until they got to that episode. Like he's one of those people that kind of like rights as he goes.

1:26:29 Like it's very therapeutic and like make sense for him. But he was relating it directly to his personal experience of what in his head addiction is like meaning like it's literally like highs lows, fears extreme, extreme joy, extreme, like absolute depression. You can rise up. You fall. So like her. Ography like climbing up over like people, it's like, it's all very symbolic where I my first watched it. I literally thought this is rude dying. She's kissing

1:26:59 her father. Goodbye. She's like, I don't know. I literally thought this was very tiring. I didn't know. It was her Sam levenson, describe the scene. It's he intended this symbolism to be about relapse and addiction and the the bodies of like the dead that have fallen to this stuff and her climbing and then falling back into the relapse. All the dancers outside or wearing robes that are the same color as her father's hoodie. Like, we also started didn't want just black and white. It's not

1:27:29 like you relapsed underdone. It's like you could like real act like it's not over like yeah, but to me and to many many other viewers the including you, I think the scene red is really nice. I thought she was dead and so it's a little bit. I think my my qualms with the ending come. I think it was executed perfectly. I was just frustrated to find out that rourou is not dead. Basically. I mean, I love Rue. It's likely wanted that. But you're right.

1:27:59 It makes sense, but it's like, well, read. That was to me that would could not have been more obvious. The roux is dead. And so, it's like, how could you not? How could you have looked at the scene as the Creator, or the producers or whatever and read this as Ruiz anything? Other than that? I mean they show her go up, which is funny, because Sam levenson, the so blind to it which is kind of cute almost because So it obviously made Euphoria even that much more enticing does your like I have to season two. I have to know what's happening with through where he had literally zero

1:28:29 intent of like that being a cliffhanger. It was more of a like. Oh, like this is just like Artful, right? And when you're an artist, you're very close to your art and it's hard to step outside and see how other people will perceive it. But to me, it was like when she goes up to her mom and her sister and hugs them, and they're not reacting, like she has, if she's not there and then her dad is there and he hugs her dad and he Her pack, it's like, well, yeah, he's dead and he's hugging her back. So she totally like she hugs GF from behind and Jill literally doesn't even feel her but then she had her daughter. Dad kisses

1:28:59 her on the forehead. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. I am. I'm 100% with you. Look a little deeper into it. Some people were saying that the lyrics that are happening. At that moment, say there's a male voice being like not yet or something along those lines as her dad's kissing her dad is so a lot of people were reading at, like he's like you a lot of people have read the ending. As she is going to die of an overdose, but not yet. Like she's heading there. But really, this is the time. So we'll see how

1:29:29 that plays out. So, if she did Relapse, you could have a weird moment of like almost death. And I know that's really blown out of proportion. But yeah, if she could have had like a literal near-death like right in that moment. She could have really thought she saw her dad whatever you want to think. Yeah, but yeah, I absolutely the first time I'll never for I will literally never forget the first time I watched this finale. That was so moved. I mean, it's really what made me like love the show because I didn't really know what to expect. I was like, how are they going to wrap all these storylines? There's a lot going on, right? I do.

1:30:00 That is one thing. I will praise you for you forever. And ever about is I do think that they really did a good job of like, kind of wrapping up everyone but not enough where like, you want to watch season 2. You want to know what's going on, but it's not like you. I didn't walk away. Frustrated personally, other than finding out she didn't die because I was Like, damn it. Like I thought I had it. I thought I knew like I thought I understood it. And now you're telling me she didn't die. That was the only part like got friends. Really frustrating to me because I

1:30:30 if it's ambiguous or if she's supposed to be alive or whatever. I would have liked it to read more of that way because then it's like you think she's dead and then you essentially are finding out she's not dead by him. Just being like she's not that like, I feel like the product and the story and the creation should be a little more clear about what it Doing. If it's supposed to be obvious. That is ambiguous. I mean that ending could be pretty ambiguous and maybe you don't find out if she's alive or dead till season 2. If nobody says anything,

1:31:00 but if everyone's coming out and saying she's not dead, it's kind of frustrating because you're like, well, no one, it's not really clear. So I'd like the our to like speak for itself. And if she's not dead, I like to find out in season 2 instead of having somebody tell me. She's not dead. I agree. Like so in other words you would have been happy if Sam would have just been like, I don't know. Yeah. I wish I knew. In that because it could be read very Ambiguously. So I would have preferred if they had just left it open and it until season 2, anything to do with that, you know, some shows, they have like certain requirements. Like, they might

1:31:30 have been like, you can't say that because then no one will like, you might upset like the Democrat, you know, the bill that one cuz everyone would still know that Zendaya was going to be in season 2, and I work. So, we signed on, I'm right? So, it wouldn't take away from the fandom. She was in season, two, as a, as a ghost, or a narrator, a voice or whatever, everyone still gonna watch it now. Going to stop watching acres in day is like dead in the show, is obviously still in. All I can say is, I wish you all could have seen how fucking fast. I scrambled after that finale, when I first

1:32:00 watched it. I was like, going to every Twitter every interview I could fucking fine because I was like, I need to know right now offers actually dead and like you said to your point I found out right away because I literally typed in, like, comes out and says, you were Sam levenson. Just straight up says, she's not dead. So no, it's a little frustrating. I wish. She's would have, at least, leaned into the ambiguity and been, like, people are reading this as ambiguous. So maybe I could like, at least play it off until season, two. You just came out was like, no, she's not bad. So you're funny like

1:32:30 that. I well dog. You're sure as hell made. It look like she's true. But I'm relieved. I'm opposite of being like, thank God, Sam levenson told us because I was flipping out sobbing about Ruby's gone. I mean for me, like I said it, this and I really mean this. I'm very like tied to real personally. I heard characters the one I resonated with the most, so when she died, I little bit. Fucking died in my bed, like sweating fucking cry. My eyes out. Meatball was like scared of me because I like so terrifying. So for me, it was like highly emotional. So when he relieved

1:33:00 me of that I was like thank fucking God. But yeah, I mean either way she's not in great shape for season 2. Absolutely not. I can't believe Jules left her. You know, you're just going back to that lie. I can't. I mean I'm still like floored like they're at the train station and jewels finds out she'll to stay with her family and she drools is like, okay. Bye like just leave. Loser. You could have just stayed with her, but also, but but let's be honest you and I always say this what a fucking boring ending that would be that's like when someone in a horror movie walks into a room,

1:33:30 all the lights are off and you're like, what the fuck you doing? You just stop. Stop, stop. I know, I know you're right. It's like you they gotta make it TV where they, I know on that point and we also have a correction from last week that I just remember one last week. We were talking about ruse medication and we were like, I don't think there's been on medication and and are Reboil follower. Yeah, Romero. I think I'm saying it wrong, but it's close a follower corrected. Our follower is so sweet. Like gives us all the Deets. Yeah,

1:34:01 deemed us. And said, just so, you know, rou does mention she's offer, right? And, during the train scene. We see, the zombie were like, oh, yeah. She's right. Because during the train scene ruse. Like I need my medication, which I thought was interesting, because it kind of explains why roux is both like, has the bipolar stuff. And the OCD, but we never really see her having symptoms of that for most of the show. Yeah, I know. So it does make a little bit more sense. Now, that we're like, Ashley has been on Medicaid and also, you know what fuck tools,

1:34:31 not moment to. She was a figure, just find it a pharmacy. No, you can't. I know, right? You can't, you can't. You have to have like, you have to go through a process. Trust me out. You gotta have the fucking paper. I would now like I've taken medication, just so I don't get to just shop at Walgreens and go. Yo, guess what? I'm bipolar and I've got OCD hook me up hook a girl up crap. So how it works. Yeah. But you know what? Holy shit. Like I said, I do want to end on like a very like emotional note that this finale is just. I think incredible. I absolutely love everything about it. I also think it's really, really dope.

1:35:01 That like Sam levenson, pulled all this from his personal experience. I think that makes it even more like special because it's like damn like if that's really how we felt was going through shit. I can't even imagine. Like I told you I was like the part where her mom's reading that letter and even just seeing the last seen and all kind of comes together. I just can't even imagine like my heart just goes out to so many. People that are addicts, because it's so fucking, like, it's fucking rough. Like it's just a journey that you have to go through your entire life and it's not like, it's no one's fault.

1:35:31 It's just you're either born with it or you're not. Yeah, like you were joking that like you've tried drives. I have we're so fucking lucky and I'm so grateful that that's not in my jeans. But like, holy fuck, like ask my dad 17. Can you imagine if I had an addictive personality? Can you even imagine like, I'd be a A fucking shit show. I would be rude, probably worse. So I just feel so grateful that but I don't have have to go through that. I can't imagine. So like it's pretty dope that like to see him now

1:36:01 like clearly sober and like thriving. Like what? A cool story. Get it so dope. Yeah, really? Oh, so now I like amazing amazing amazing stuff. So I mean, it would not be our show if we didn't just go right into superlatives. Let's hit those Pearl. It is The old this week. They're going to be a little lightly prom themed. Yeah, lightly. Yeah, so we've got what do we got? First? Best dressed thinking best recipe. It's not easy. I already started earlier.

1:36:31 I think Maddie's dress is so unique. It's so her it's like pure rhinestone. It's over-the-top. It's sexy. I just think it like could not be more Maddie and they did a great job. I love it. Yep, weirdly like no one really blows me away in this episode, but I think Cassie looks very like mature. Very Very nice. Like she could walk the red carpet in that look. She doesn't belong in high school looking like that. Like, she's outpacing everyone. She's also like put together you'd be swooning because he'd be like,

1:37:01 this is so dope. That I have a day. That's like barely really put any effort in and looks like a good. She looks fucking classy as shit. So great. We're stressed. I literally like I feel bad even saying this because you know what our listeners are going to be pissed but like, I know, sorry, but Jules same. The second I saw her prom. Look. I just You'll note, I was like, whoo, it is not working. Like I, it doesn't work for me at all. The skunk are suddenly throw, like we already went into it. But I also do is, I do love the trench coat like I would wear that.

1:37:31 Yeah. Well, I'm not like the right person to represent the political background of it. But I absolutely like, I love the material. I love the glitter. Anyone can be Pro trans rights, like that's true. But I, you know what? I mean. Now like I think it's more fitting that she gets. So it makes sense. She's wearing that it's amazing. What a great statement but Like what a bummer that to pair with that. She loves like a skunk. Yeah. The rest of it didn't come together. It could have been a stronger. Look if all the other details of been more in line, but yeah,

1:38:01 like I said the the hair and the makeup is the only thing that threw me off. I really don't even think the outfit was that bad. I just think you're so distracted by the bad do and makeup. Yeah. Yeah, not just didn't really fat. It's a bummer. So we have our prom king or queen option. Yeah, I think we both chose. Laughs you. All right. Is lacks a straight-up. Lexi Lexi is so beyond her years in her assessment of high school. She's younger. Yeah. Younger than all right, wiser than all. Great for her for

1:38:31 just being like, so ahead of the game, in terms of being like, High School's bullshit, like none of this matters and just having that kind of, like, presence of mind and maturity and awareness because Q really isn't. She hollers? When she gets here are making out and she's drunk. And she's like, whoops, think she's a good friend. Yeah, and she gets drunk. Nice fun. So let's he's never had a bad friend moment in this whole season, which is made that known. She's been so loyal. She's never been a bad friend, anybody. Yeah, I mean over the course of the Season Lexie goes from being like a small background

1:39:02 character to being like a super strong like interesting character in her own right? Especially in these last two episodes. So absolutely lost three good for her then we've got big prom dirty rat bastard. Because you know what? Once again, I'm like cringing saying this because usually we Nick needs we fix stinky old Nate but he doesn't really do much in this episode and man. He's not a good person. Let's just make that clear. Like, he's freshly character is but like he didn't do anything outrageous in this episode.

1:39:32 So we picked Jewels because she fucking left through at the train station. Yeah, she's being really mature with her like whole Anna thing and then to leave room at the end of friends, whatever. But he's on call real bastard. You leave your best friend of the train station when she says I'm going through some post-traumatic. Stress. I need to like, be good to my mom and my sister are ya. There will be another train tomorrow. We can go. So, like it's sorry. Bastard move. Yeah, that was super uncalled for. And she's kind of just

1:40:02 like on and off this episode, but she's displaying a lot of qualities that are not not her best side. No, Jules is on the downward, the downward spiral right now, and it's a bummer, but she's being kind of shady Drew. It's awful. Then we've got the prom gesture will gesture. Just likes it again. Oh, yeah, Lexie. Again. She's funny. She's funny. She's all good drunk. Also, I was just thinking to another funny part for her was when she was like, with Cassie. And she's like, how do you like hook up with people?

1:40:33 Yeah. Because it's like, I don't know. I just fucking like, walk up and, like, figure it out and she's like, oh, she's funny. She's very like, uh, like she's just wasted. It's great. Yeah. I love Lexie. I didn't think I would, but I do I know, and it's a dinner. Remember, caring about her character at all in my previous three, watches. And on this one. I was like, okay, I get why she's like such a fan favorite. She's great. She's a fan favorite. But also she's Sam Levinson's favorite because she was in assassination Nation before this. And

1:41:03 the interview. I read to you today out loud, just kind of about the finale. He literally says, like, I understand why people want to know Lexi's backstory like Maud was my she was already written in for that part. Like I don't even think she may have had to audition. Do like, you know, usual the format with the formality that you will, but like, Absolutely, like he was like, she's genius. I love her just as an actress. Like this was her part. Like I wanted this for her. I couldn't imagine anybody else which I thought was kind of cute because like you said, Lex he's kind of this, like, secondary character, but like, to Sam. It was like, no, it's

1:41:33 very important that she's healthy. There's also, like, there's no way we all. I mean, it's obvious. There's plans for her in season two. Same with Fusco, like it's been stated, but I think you can tell in the story as well, that these are characters who are going to get their due. At the time, they weren't like Sadly neglected where it's like, what the fuck? Why didn't they get apple? Sounds like they're gonna go. So it's kinda calm down. Their stories are developing. Like we're going to see more. We only had eight episodes, like we're gonna get it, please, that either like there hasn't been

1:42:03 enough to lead up to like, I need to know Lex. He's back story, right? What's what calm down? Yeah, sounds it'll happen. And that our favorite music for me. I mean, I song of the week, it's all for us by Labyrinth and I'll tell you why. I mean, it's not just because like, I love the end. And I mean, that for me is super powerful but it's one of those songs that like, I know you'll like laugh and make fun of me and I could see you just rolling your eyes that I've been looking at you Alex for like after the after I watched before it for the first time. This was the song. I listen to the

1:42:33 most walking like to work like because I was so attached. Meaning like I don't even really know, I'll be honest. I don't even really know if I love the song. It's very like nostalgic for me. It's like one of those songs that will just always be like a part of my life. It's so sound. So fucking stupid, everything. Hearing you say that but I don't give a fuck like it does. It's very just like therapeutic for me to listen to It's so powerful. However, it's not a song, I can just listen to and be like looking for me. It's like very emotional.

1:43:04 It's like listening to like you and I have our songs are very emotional. We're like, we're like we love them. Like you cherish them. You put them away in a treasure box. You don't just like play them on a nonchalant walk. Like, you know, it's too much. I'll start to cry every time I listen to it all starts crab. I have I have super mixed feelings on Score for you. For I think the the song at the end here. I'm like, this is a this is at its best. Like I think his score is working at its best during scenes like that. I mean it's an epic scene with the whole course of red. Right? You understand that I read

1:43:34 it to you about if you remember that like that was already a song on his album. Did you know that? No, so this song was not written for you for you. I mean, I never this is bad, but I don't ever pay attention winner X. So, the lyrics, don't change anything for me. But all I'm saying, is, I'm letting you know, in case any of our fall. Lovers don't know, you never know. Sam picked. Labyrinth based on the song. He loved the song. Tristan. He had a lot of things like he's an artist. So he had a lot of like, ideas of what he wanted, this to be very early on like, Sunday. I was always his

1:44:04 choice. It was like a no-brainer, like he didn't even want to have auditions for. It was like I ones and dad to play this part. Yeah, we're just kind of bizarre. But anyways, not because she's bad but like she'd only done Disney before this. So it's like what role was he watching? Other than like Spider-Man where he was a? Wow. I'm Blown Away. I don't even like she's amazing actually see the depth, you know, yeah, exactly. Like the emotional level, and it's there. But, where did he see it? Oh, and she like killed it. But yeah, but it's almost like he kind of took a risk, not really knowing if she could reach those levels, right?

1:44:34 But anyway, with that being said, he wasn't allowance album loved that song and like and literally envisioned it not for the finale, but just to be in the show and they weren't even planning to have them to and then Labyrinth and him collaborated a bit. And they were like this, just like speaks to us if it's It's so well for like that Montage scene, which it did and it I know you don't listen to lyrics but you should next time because it's crazy how much they like parallel to the story. Which is why I was I had no idea. I don't even really know much

1:45:04 about Labyrinth before this. I mean, I did a segment because I was particularly interested in that segment and whether we were supposed to read it as dead or not, so I was like paying attention during that it was very odd, but then they obviously she has a singing career. But before this, I mean it was You sure. But like she can sing. She has pipes. She's a good singer. So they were kind of like, would you want to sing this? And she was like, fuck? Yeah, so xuan. I don't know. I think it's really dope, but you can go. Yeah, mixed opinions on a score overall and one thing I found myself

1:45:34 thinking many times strong many times during the show. I found myself thinking I wonder what this would be like scored differently. And there are times. I'm like, I definitely would get more impact from the scene if it was scored differently, like for example, in this episode Cassie's ice skating. I've seen I think could for me personally. I could have gotten so much more out of that scene with different music. Sometimes it's very like gospel e and it's kind of like it that fo epic. Like it feels like it's supposed

1:46:04 to be like so dramatic and so Alan is and it doesn't really hit home for me and other times I'm like I could use way more synth. Sometimes these they're shooting these scenes that are like pure sent and you don't get any appetizers, something not to like You offer interject, but I really think you should save a lot of this commentary for an episode where we really dive into the music. Because I feel like, no, because I know I like it, but I'm like, I could literally, I'm like getting nervous cause I'm like, I could literally go on and on. All right, argue with you and well, so base

1:46:34 a also we do more and also our fans, a lot of them wrote in asking for an episode just on the music. So I kind of want to save it. Say no more at my song of the week is Blow the Whistle by Too Short no explanation. Well, yeah, no, no. No, it's just it's so fucking great song. It's a great fucking song. So the on that note of us talking about the music and shit. We obviously are not done

1:47:04 with episodes. We're not, you know, just cutting it here because season one's over we are very serious about continuing. We already have ideas. We already know what we're going to do for next week, which is we would love, we took your feedback into consideration and we would Have to do a season two predictions theories. Yeah. Anything and everything about Susan to, what the fuck do we think? Is going to happen? Yeah. So right in hit us on Twitter, hit us on Instagram.

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1:48:35 you has been really, it's been touching and I feel incredibly lucky that you guys have given us even a minute of your time. So really, we really do appreciate it. And we're gonna be out here, and keep trying to bring some I'm fucking entertaining content you guys because it means a lot to us. It really means so much and on that same note, which is so cute. Because Alex, Alex is a pretty emotional. Do by the way, you might not know it from the podcast. Like why do you think I did a time for fucking 10 years, but like for

1:49:05 real, I will second that, I think it's just bizarre. I mean we did this out of passion and we joked about it, but quarantine really did bring us together and really made us focus on what we wanted to try out. And we did this kind of fearful honestly, I think Michael fuck. This is so awkward. What if only like, ten of our friends? Listen, and it's crazy. We've got over 1,000 listens. Now. People all over the world, people all over the world. Is that Kuwait? India? I mean, you name are they even process? Like, it's so cool. It's just insane.

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1:50:06 So like I said, we aren't going nowhere. We've got some great things, planned ahead. But that being said, Alex and I both just at the bottom of our hearts when I express the gratitude for all of you sharing our page following us. Scribing reviewing us. You name it all the things amazing. Yeah, it's all right, I think in our normal nature, we have to do a little like sentimental last year's to RV caps. What an amazing round truly.

1:50:36 That is that's so euphoric. Oh, that sounds good. So now next week you forints. We love you.