S2 E6 - SUPER BOWL LVI: RUE BENNETT VS. ONE (1) WATERMELON JOLLY RANCHER

00:55 We sound so much drunker than we are because we're definitely not know just hungover quite on over. Also. What was that? What's the song that I always think? Is the NFL theme song but it's not an every year. I sing it, when it's NFL time and I'm always wrong. Think it's Eye of the Tiger. No, it's yeah, it totally is. So it's something else. No, it's a funnel. I was good, ya did it. This is obviously not the Super Bowl Super Bowl theme song.

01:26 It's for its, I never liked em involved. So I just always kind of like think I know things but I do, I guess I should know better. That Final Countdown is not the NFL theme song, just the power 80s on who even wrote that it is kind of like it. Does a you up dead? An identity, you know, one of those 80s hair metal. Yeah. Well anyways you for Ian's what up, its Sunday's Super Bowl Sunday, but I got the big Super

01:56 Bowl Sunday. We've all been waiting for living for the memes. Yeah, some the the great one that hopefully everyone is seen by now is the the Super Bowl Smackdown me and with Maddie and Cassie. We're Maddie Perez is listed as knocking extremists and Cassie, Howard is listed as puker and crier which is so good. That's really love. Describing. Maddie is a knocking, extremist is amazing. I for some reason I thought was knocking enthusiasts,

02:27 but they're both good. I like your shirt. It sounds like she's like a terrorist. It's crazy. Very funny. But yeah, the fucking super the smackdown build up. We really they denied us the smackdown this week. I know and I will say like I wasn't deep down I was like secretly wishing for the smackdown, but I knew it wasn't going to happen yet because I knew like the focus was going to be more on Rue and I've just felt like the tone of the episode wasn't going to be like a Smackdown tone. Honestly,

02:57 the real Smackdown in this episode is between ruined that fucking Jolly Rancher. I know. No mention, what was the ones that I was like the whole time? I was like, am I stupid? Is this like a normal thing for like someone with withdrawals to go through? Like she's just so like we can like debilitated from how bad are withdrawals. Are God. I can't even open a open. A single Jolly Rancher. Oh, I thought she was trying to like replace drugs with the Jolly Ranchers. Like she just wanted to like she just wanted like

03:27 the strength or dexterity to open it. I've always just wanted something kind of like in pill form. Arm. So I can tell your answer was like the only thing she could find. I don't think so. I mean I could be wrong but I really do. Yeah, so we didn't get the smackdown but like I was loving the just like I'm loving that Everyone likes you for you so much this year that on Twitter. It was trending more than the Super Bowl was like quite literally and I was just I don't know that brings me a lot of

03:57 Joy because I just really couldn't give a shit about football. So I just love that America was Really really happen l a Super Bowl like that just doesn't feel like right. No, it feels weird and icky a Super Bowl very like influencers. Like Disneyland is like this, your Super Bowl. Yeah, that's not right. No, I love that. Angus was tweeting. Turn football off and watch Euphoria. Also, he tweeted on the Jolly Rancher. No, he's at this Jolly Rancher better be the best tasting Jolly Rancher ever.

04:27 She's putting in the work for that thing. I mean it was the red flavor. That's not the This. But I like the pink. No, it was the pink. It was watermelon. Oh, okay. Flavors cherry and that sucks. You think you like Cherry? No. No I'm saying pink is the best. I thought she had a red one. She had the she had that watermelon. Oh, well, that's worth it. That's better than drugs through the word. The everyone knows the ranking goes. Let's see what blue raspberry watermelon, green apple. Yeah, Jerry, I don't even know the rest of the yellow is horrible. It's rancid yellow, the yellow Jolly.

04:58 Now, there is ice. Maybe I feel like they're definitely is, I can pick Sure, how bad it tastes? There's green. I'm literally gonna look it up. There has to be a yellow Jolly Rancher. No. Well. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that ruse into Jolly Ranchers. I hope that she sticks to that. Like, let's stay away from the morphine and let's just stick to Jolly Ranchers. I'm kind of here for that. Maybe some Warheads. It's basically drunk. Do you remember how intense Warhead, like Wars would get you love Warheads, but they're so

05:28 aggressive. You like them. I feel like I'm not to be light there. Silly challenge, although I do like them, especially because they're kind of delicious. Once you get past the sourness. Like once you get to the Sweet layer underneath or actually surprisingly good. Uh-huh. Yellow. Jolly Rancher. I just pulled it up on Google. It took my men died. Yeah. Lemonade's rancid. It tastes like kitchen supplies, like, kitchen spray that you clean your counter with. I feel like wow, I don't know if I've ever had a lemon Jolly Rancher also on the we're going down such a Jolly

05:58 Rancher rabbit hole, but I will say the wine we're drinking right now is God. Awful. I was just laughing that like, Alex and I every week of literally downgraded. I don't know why. I like we should be Zuri. I know we had martinis at the beginning litchi martinis and we're stooping low. Like last week you were pouring beer into like my champagne glass this week. We have this god-awful watermelon Trader, Joe's Wine, which usually Trader Joe's? I'm like shout-out and like happy to support,

06:28 but I do not support this wine. This is absolutely. Not so much episodes. We need to like reset and get back on our shit. It's we really though it's embarrassing. Like if we're going to have like a, you know, an esteemed podcast. We really need to up our game when the alcohol. Yeah. Yeah, this is true Department because this watermelon wine is so bad. And didn't you say it's like 6%. It's like the, it's like 8%. I've never had a wine. That was only 8 percent before. Oh well, tell you about. So cheers.

06:59 And it's like getting warm which is even like worse. So it's really bad. Well anyways, so our wine sucks, but let's just dive into the episode. We got a interesting title this week. Yeah, this week's episode is a thousand little trees blood based on a poem. A poem by Federico Garcia Lorca. Hmm. Alia.

07:29 Wow, the whole poem. And if you want and it's not too long, it's pretty hardcore. Honestly, I mean, it's actually really hard core like, okay, good one line. I feel like it looks really long. No, I do, I won't read it but it's a pretty clothes that are horrific problem. Honestly about someone getting martyred. Oh shit, I guess the the biggest connection I can just make on a surface level to the episode is that like obviously a martyr gets, you know, put through the ringer

07:59 for there. So we've sort Or values. And in some sense, we're seeing, you know, roux is suffering, suffering the consequences of her lifestyle choices and well, her addiction. I don't want to say her choices. We don't think it also is about Cassie. No Cassie's. I think Cassie's suffering is false and self-imposed were really angry with suffering, like, truly like a martyr

08:30 would like actually suffering. Physical and existential like pain. Yeah, I guess in the name of like her attempting to still be like a member of her family and still be loved and loved them and trying to get clean and for that for trying to do these things and trying to do, right? She is suffering pretty hard. Yeah, I think that's probably the so hard that Lena's comparison so hard that she has a rope of snot coming out of her nose

09:00 and this opening scene that Is so nasty. I literally almost gagged. I can't. Alex knows. I have like the worst gag reflexes for some reason when I see boogers or snot so I couldn't even like look at her also. Do you think that's real? Is that a real fucking burger? Oh, it's so gross. I almost just got because this one is so bad and I'm watching it again. Okay, I think they did a good job because it looks real. It's Point real. I feel like Sam really puts Sunday. I like through the fucking ringer when they fell. Many. Good way acting hard here. Yeah,

09:30 not roll. Rue. Oh, it's so gross. Well, that's not snort it. Yeah, this this whole like opening scene is obviously like so sad. So I call around like it's not straight. Like it's a come down from last week though. Like last week was like, oh my God, you like barely could breathe during the episode. This one. I felt a little more relief, but still not like still very dying. I found this to be such a depressing episode. Weirdly Euphoria,

10:00 never really gets to To me in this episode just felt so like million our and like depressing. It's probably because Nate had more screen time and every time he's on screen. He's always winning and it like makes me sad exception of when he got fucked up life as and it just feels so like awful to see him like, yeah, it gives you a pet for sure. Awful like with really like you open the episode with a little Hope by the end of the episode, like, you know, he's like, she's just going to bounce right back. The hope is Stir evaporating.

10:31 Probably yeah, she's not there yet. She doesn't want to get better. That's what sucks their fucking introducing. Their re bringing up. The the jewels neat thing. I don't know. I feel just so much like impending doom. This episode. I gotta it was kind of a it was Sylar Downer one for me, Persona percent. I mean this whole like in the house her like Jolly Rancher. All this Vibe is just really sad like her mom having to like carry her to the bathroom.

11:01 I'm like, I feel you. It was a downer like 100%, like, just all around very depressing, but I don't know, I feel bad for the mom. I feel like the mom to like, I don't mean like this in a critical way, but I feel like her character, like, she just like, it's like what they were saying in the, after the episode. Like behind the scenes shithouse. They were like, oh, like the mom just kind of leans on her religion to like, help her through this, but she has like no real support. So this was the first time where I kind of felt like, sorry for the mom.

11:31 Because she really is like just doing everything like a good mom would do in this situation, but fuck, I just like don't even know what I would do if this was my kid. Well, plus they like don't really even introduced this, but you have to like, Wonder like, you know, how is she like, have the doing all this? Like, she's a, let should have a job, like a full-time job, just totally ruined Gia. Like, where is she getting the time to like watch after a tree? Like this? Like, it must be like a huge strain. Like yeah. Seeing Upon

12:01 taking some PTO, taking so, good PTI. I'm, Angie has just always like a sad character because I really it's hard because I don't feel like she Harbors. A lot of anger. I would understand if she did, but I'm more, I guess. I don't know about you, but I feel like I'm surprised. She's not more fucking pissed. Like this would drive me crazy if my sibling was just going through this cycle over and over again. Like I don't know what they're getting out in this episode is that she probably does, but she doesn't feel okay. Like Expressing

12:32 it. Yeah, that's why she loves you. That's why all these, all these presents in this episode is helpful for her. Because like, he says, you know, she just he's like, you can feel it's okay to be angry. Like, I think she. Yeah, absolutely. Feels like she, like, can't walking on eggshells because she loves her sister and it's probably scary when your sisters fucking suicidal like. Yeah, I don't know, you wouldn't want to like speak your truth. I think fear of like something bad happening. Right? Right. So I think him coming around. Round is

13:02 helpful for all members of the family and a lot of ways, but definitely what he says to G about being able to like, feel that anger more is going to be beneficial for her to hear. Totally. Well, at least we got some comedic relief with the Poo jokes. Yeah, only brings it with the comedy. In this line, any the diarrhea hands because she told the mom. She has diarrhea. He's got stinky diarrhea withdrawal ass. Yeah. He's like your stink withdrawal, diarrhea. I was

13:32 like, whoa. Only really has no filter. Is great. Also, this is horrible. But when ruse in the bathtub like shivering like soaking wet. I was like, this was literally be an obvious when we got Omicron. Like this is how I felt. I was like, is this what it's like to like cover the same as like drug withdrawals because that right there is what I looked like when I was sick. Yeah, over the holidays. But anyways, yeah, dark dark shit. What do we have after this though? We kind of Gotta go into

14:02 like the whole Cassie shit. And yeah Kathy's like, you know, still just being like a piece of it just being like basically a huge loser. I'm not because I maybe I'm like really stupid for thinking this but I thought in this episode she feel a little more remorse for Maddie, not so much like, crying over need. I don't know. I just thought like she gave her that cute scrapbook on her birthday. And I know it's all like kind of fake. She's like fucking her friend's boyfriend, but at the same time, I was a little surprised

14:32 that she showed quite literally like No Remorse like not worried about their friendship at all. Like she never once brought up Matty at all. She because she only can feel bad for herself right now. She's being incredibly like selfish. Yeah. Appreciate Miss. Howard having Lexi hide all the knives, but like, holy shit. How many knives they have. That boy lives in Italy, you know, usually you've got like you're standing be 3. Here for like yeah,

15:03 the kind of like, you know, that's all you need. But yeah, it's also goes to show that like cos he's clearly just like you said, just playing victim, victim victim because she tries to literally, like, pretend she's going to kill herself with a fucking wine bottle opener. And it's like Cassie. Give me a break Cassie's. Pretty insufferable at this point because it's all just like fake drama. It's not like real emotion. It's just her being likes playing victim. She's ready to throw away everything in her life. All her friends and family for fucking mate. Like And then give a shit about her

15:33 as much as my mom calls her out. I will save us Howard kind of ticks me off sometimes because I feel like she's still babies for the, like she has like Lexie do all this weird stuff like hiding the knives and like your sisters like in a hard state right now and Lexi's just like I roll like she's fine. Like yeah. Meaning like she should give her a little more tough love. Like I would just be like, yeah. She let her leave the house with her suitcase. I'm shit, which is like signing off on her like, you know, yeah your life away for fucking me also. So, all around this episode

16:03 should have been called bad parenting 101. Every parent in this episode was a little even worse, fucking High School parent and the world. No. Oh, sorry. No, not Leslie. Are you kidding? We stand our girl Leslie, but, okay. We got Miss Howard like bad. Mom. Lets her leave to go to Nate's with a suitcase. Like, are you kidding me? Then? We've got Maddie's, whatever her boss, The Nanny job. She's like, hey girl, like you're a senior in high school. All right. Look, let's get drunk. And go

16:33 swimming. Hehe. It's like and you can dress like worst parenting. And then we've got Nate's, mom is just like getting fucking lit in the kitchen, like, smoking with a bloody Mary, and one hand like drinking straight from a whiskey bottle. The next minute. Like this was just bad parenting 101 all around. Yeah, a lot of yeah, bad parenting. Like I saw some bad parenting my day, but nothing like this. Yeah, it was Was pretty aggressive,

17:04 especially, especially old, Marsha letting Nate just drink whiskey in the kitchen. No. No, like I said, it was totally normal and I get it like, she's obviously, like definitely going through some shit. Like, her husband, just walked out, like, I understand like the level of a little, you know, I understand like a little bit of it. But like, with your son, I don't know. It's one thing to do that in front of your kids, but to like invite them in on the chaos, like, I don't know about that. Yeah. So what else do we have? Going on. We've got the, we have the diner scene

17:34 with Kat and Ethan. Oh, rib cage where, you know, Ethan Ethan finally get some screen time, Keepin Keith in. I don't even know. That was like a relationship name until you thunder. Who said? I think it was Barbie said in the after like after episode. Yeah, they're gonna a nice little Chinese restaurant. It's got a good vibe. I want to find that spot. Yeah, unfortunately cat is just regressing to her like shit. Itty cruel behavior from last season. Which is why I was always so

18:04 hard on her last season because she was a real shit person and this season. She's largely been out of the picture. So she's escaped my scathing judgment, but Toto she is so shady poor Eva. Oh meatball. He has some words. Me Possum. Words about Keith Urban. Yeah. Go to sleep me. Paul. He's like, she's only heard of say cat. So he thinks we're talking about him. Yeah. She's slandering the good name of cats everywhere. Okay. Now, This might be like, I don't know. I'm just speaking. My

18:34 thoughts, like purely off of just coming out of this episode and you can agree or disagree but I felt like the writing for cat and Ethan's little conversation was a little weird her. I'm eating not weird just like a little unbelievable to me. Meaning. I don't think cat from last season from what I like gained from her like character Arc. I don't, I understand that. She's going through a shit. That makes sense. And like I don't, I'm not saying like, oh, I wouldn't believe. If she'd be this shitty, but the whole like, I have a brain

19:04 disorder. Like all that conversation was very weird to me. That didn't seem like something cat would say, I don't know. I mean it, like, when I was a terminal brain, like felt like the cat of last season really was like, this is why I didn't like at and all this season that hasn't really been present. So I was like, you know, more about her this season. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is like who cat was like all of season one? And this is why I was constantly like Just like Lucy. I think differently though. I thought that was kind

19:34 of smoky. She was funny. She kept all the girls kind of in line and then check sometimes, you don't even like many times. She called Maddie out on her shit. She kind of like, I don't know. I just feel like she was a little different. So who's had kind of a cruel streak, though? She was always, like necessarily mean to people especially to Ethan. I agree. And I this felt like in line with that like it, typical. What's the brain stuff? Like was that supposed to be funny? Or was she actually really trying to get away with? Eating like I have a terminal like brain disease, like a mod. Like he said, I

20:04 think she was just looking for any reason to make it that he was breaking up with her. Like she was just being so aggressively shitty that he would like break up with her. And he, she could like blame it on him, you know, yeah. That why would she say that though? Of all things? I don't know why that really just didn't seem like normal. I was like who would say that though? Like, I don't know. I think it would have been better if she would have said something like that. Made a little more sense, but I was a little weirded out about the whole like I have a brain disease. He's like, I'm sorry. What like, how is Ethan not like, what the fuck are you talking

20:35 about? I know. I mean he was and that's why he was, but I think you handled it. I'm like keep your head up King. You'll be fine. We stand a Shortcake. Yeah, he's gonna be in the play. He didn't give him to her like games at all. He called now, I'm like trying to like make it look like he was like a sliding her when she was really gaslighting him. Like he was like, I'm not playing this game. Like I'm out of. This is like the way you want to be. I also

21:05 feel like she's kind of like, in a weird way. Now that her and Maddie are good again. I also feel like she's trying to be like cool. Like, when she was on the phone. She was like, haha. Like see you later. Cuz I'm like, talking to her. I was like, I was never like that last season, like her and Maddie were tight, but she wasn't, like, worshiping Maddie and acting all like, buddy-buddy all the time. It just feels a little weird. Yeah, gross. You know what I mean, though, like doesn't seem authentic. It seems like she's like trying to be cool in front of Ethan like, Look at me. I'm not talking to my girlfriend. She's so badass.

21:35 Look. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do character. It doesn't feel. It feels like this was like a regression to her. Like, like she hasn't learned from last season. She has. Yeah, we actually grown, she's just kind of like still stuck in that same place. She was last season, which I don't necessarily fine like unrealistic or unbelievable, but I am curious to see where they go with her character and exco. She hasn't really gotten any no sees, another than Going back to the shitty face. Yeah. I also always loved like Maddie's

22:05 Maddie has just always has some great wines like when she's talking about like, what did she say? She's like, you know, when they interview like the parents of like the School shooters like afterwards. I don't remember what she says, but that whole like seeing of her like talking about how Grizzly like her murder of Cassie is going to be, was cracking me up. Yeah. That was funny. She's a bad. I don't know. I'm it's weird now. Are you still not on like side of Liking Maddie, I think Maddie, if anything is like really growing on me. I feel like she's the

22:35 only character. I like like a lot this season. Yeah, I don't know. It'll be interesting to see what she does next and that could make me feel one way or the other, right? Yeah. I'm kind of like so so indifferent. I like that. She was gonna come for me. It and Maddie, you know, your caste. I hope we get them all confused or so much going on right now in this love triangle. I hope she still does come for them. But I mean, I can't blame her if she doesn't after. Me all the fucking gun to her head. I've said we're going to the lot later. I was intense.

23:05 It's fuck. But yeah, I don't know if I don't know what's gonna happen with her character. I could see her being more likeable, especially like how disappointed she wasn't that lady that she pulled that caste Behavior to like. Yeah. I think she's just maturing a little bit. You know what I mean? I feel like last season. She would have thought all this stuff was just whatever. But like you said, yeah, like her talking to that woman. You could tell that she was like quite bothered was like, wait. I like looked up to you and like thought you were cool. But now Telling me you're just like, fuck to you're like best friend's boyfriend as well and like.

23:35 Yeah, right. And she kind of talked about it. Like it was like, whatever. Like I was just messy, but look at me now and I don't know. I wonder if Maddie's going to change her. Like, I don't know her thoughts on like the future. They always showed Maddie being very like Petty. Like I just want to have nice things and like, do nothing. I don't, you know what? I mean? Like, she's not like driven. She's very like I just want someone to have a lot of money and take care of me and I feel like that's shifting. Abyss could be a catalyst for her to like Like grow and develop, and be more, you know, more principled.

24:06 And yes, I hope a physical and her behavior which would be an interesting, develop, a nice, be nice to see it at the whole character and Euphoria. Oh wait and see. Oh, I also I kind of miss this in the beginning but I thought it was really when we were talking about like how sad the episode was the part that got me. The most emotional was a ruse apology to Ali. I feel like she did a good job. Active. Not because it's like almost made me, like kind of like, I almost shed a tear like, I was like,

24:36 this is so sad like because, you know, all these gonna like accept her apology and that's what's so great about his characters. Like he drops a nice little line from the Quran about forgiveness. It was not. Well, that's wrong. Interesting. Classy classy. You know what I mean? I just don't want to leave that out because I actually forgot that was like, a, probably the saddest moment for me. But like, yeah, I'm good on roofer, like making the sincere apology there. Like, you can tell that she fell. Just as bad about that as any of the show. She said to her family. If not worse. Honestly, I don't know. I was

25:06 really like, dwelling on that. I think. This also reminds you that like, I don't know, the past couple episodes. You really just start to go shit Rouge, just like, you know, she's out here, like, not being a good person, but at her like absolute core, like, she is a good person. She's just really like addiction is quite literally taken over all fractions in life. Yeah. She's arguably. The spite. All of that. Probably a better character than most. Yes, well on that note of amazing. Good characters.

25:36 Oh my God. Fez and Lexie. Can we please take a moment? Yeah. Holy shit. So fucking cute. They're also in New York City right now in real time. Getting martinis, and I'm jealous, that modern Angus are out, like, in our city. I like wanna run into them and party with them. No, it's not fair. Drinking martinis with them. Can you imagine off on that? One would be the best people from the show to hang out with. Other than 100 other side 100% But yeah, that scene was so

26:06 fuck. Yeah. Well, in Fez, just gets even more endearing for being like a film, bro, you know, we've been dropping hints All Season that he's like a big movie guy with them. Always having like stuff on in the Netflix and chill. Now. He's like full-on talking about like how he seen Stand By Me a million times and loves the, which also I didn't even realize. That's the one we watch this summer, right? Yeah. I had never seen it. That was our first time, so that's After I was like, oh shit, so if you haven't seen that movie, you should watch it filled in my home state, before I end. That's

26:36 a good one. Yeah, it's really cute. Of course. I mean everybody should cease and by me, it's amazing. Yeah, but that was really cute how they did that. And I also love that like they just held hands. I feel like that makes it even more like, you're rooting so hard for their relationship because that's just the most. Like, that's the sweetest thing. A guy could do like so cute. So it's like Euphoria always have something to get sick fucking dark like as that's happening. Like they're in the background. They're about to get fucked. Like fucking Custer is ratting to the cops

27:07 shit. Yeah, like cooperate with him and wrap fucking. You think I can tell? She seemed kind of like, oh, I don't know. I have a feeling they might come through. I don't know, it looked like she felt bad about it in the moment. But then in the preview for next week, it looks like she's going along with it. So, yeah, that sucks. Well, that is kind of a bad position for her but like, no one likes a rat. So I'm not going to say like, but you know, that does Siamese Not really. She is not really in a bad position either way because she's not involved in Mouse's death. She doesn't know

27:37 anything about that. So far as an ashtray without being like liable herself to the police in any way. Yeah. I feel like ashes pretty lot of shit. So I'm hoping he'll be watched the security tapes and maybe it will be like, hmm. Yeah. And also seemed from the preview for next week like ashtrays customers number, but I hope they're not already fuck. You know, I think it like might be too late, which I'm worried about. I just hate in the preview that we see. Can they see if I was not in the plan? That's really worried.

28:07 Fuck. I hope my my what's it called? My prediction of him like something bad happen to my hope that's just like not a thing. I want to like take that back because they're just set up so much shit that I don't want to happen. I know happen. I also loved one Lexi's super high and just like crying and like laughing is that massive literally. So accurate of sometimes when you're just really high like watching a movie like I wonder She was even higher, they never even showed her smoking. Oh, really? You think she was just that getting now? I feel like they were definitely

28:37 both. Hi. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really know either way, but they never once show her smoking or holding the joint. So I was like, I don't know if she is hired, not her, if she's just going on. Maybe, she's just going through a lot of shit. Like she's like, Delirious from all of her play. Like I play right along and that story and it obviously mirrors the play. She's like, working on as well. I love that. He's like rooting for her like, genuinely to he's like, fuck. What everybody Like things like, don't be scared like move forward. I agree with him because Lex he's always had to take the back seat. She's

29:07 very similar to Gia. I was thinking like there's a parallel there like just in terms of like them and their family. Like she's not getting any fucking attention. Yeah. And like holding in so many emotions. Like I feel like one day GM like Sears going to fucking snap. Yeah, but this scene with Marsha and it was just a hot mess about like the whole The whole neat Marcia stuff going on because there was a lot of interesting context that I feel

29:37 like was revealed a lot to unpack. Yeah. I mean, I think the, my big like take away from this was that something we've talked about since season, one is kind of being affirmed, which is that Nate, is more than just like a fucked-up kid from who's like, you know, been fucked up by his upbringing. We've, I think we've said, Pretty much all along. What do you mean? Like? He was born like kind of a psychopath. We've said all along that. There's something deeper and worse

30:09 that underlies, like his situation. We've talked about him being, like, not just like a bad dude, but like, someone that's like truly evil. Like at his core. Yeah. Someone with like, you know, probably very serious like mental issues. Like he's more than just like fucked up Baikal and that's something. Yeah. Like I said we talked about that. Long time and I think the conversation here is definitely like confirming that like to have Cal say that last week and be like you're a mystery and then now

30:39 for like Marcia to, basically say the exact confirming. Yeah, maybe he was hoping to hear the opposite from her. And instead she just basically Echoes. What Kyle said, which is that Nate's always been like Angry early since he was like eight or nine. Yeah. She said he went dark like he was such a sweet little boy and then there was some turning point and so which certainly might be connected to the little brother thing. NG he was like, you know, he was like, I feel like you're just, like, dancing around like, saying something or whatever. And he was, like, you should just come out

31:09 and say it and she doesn't. Oh, I didn't even think of that. I'm glad you caught that cuz I didn't even think that way. I just thought she was kind of like fucked up because she's clearly drunk and like she's smoking and I don't know. I just thought she was kind of speaking out like, you know when you're drunk, sometimes you just say a bunch of weird shit and I think that that's possibly what she was hinting at. And yeah, actually based on the age that they say that happened, you know, and right. When they're talking about that time when he like became dark is when he says that. He's like if you want to say something just say it. Oh, right?

31:39 Because she was hinting at what ever happened with the little brother man. Do you think he killed his little brother? Like my guess at this point is he killed the little brother and they all chalked it up to an accident, but the parents probably secretly suspected that maybe they would like more to it and it will ya and all and that would be that's my guest right now. Now is that they all played it. Like it was cool and it's not but yeah, I that's really a good point. You bring up. I thought what was crazy

32:10 or like very odd was how nonchalant she was talking about him choking Maddie. I was like, damn, like yeah, this whole family is so fucked up. Doing me. Like she was like, laughing about it. She's like, I would have choked her to, I'm like Jesus. I mean, we'd have to leave. So, you have to be an idiot to not know that he really choked Maddie. So it's not some big Revelation that she knew, but to hear her talk about it. So plainly, that's what. You know, it was kind of like whoa dark like that makes it so much darker at the end of the episode when she watches neatly Cassie to his room, like

32:40 really watching her, like, the way. I'm going to the slaughter, like, seriously, and I like how costly just like waves that I like. Hi. It's like, what the fuck is this? Like really land? Yeah. And also, what is this like, Fantastical land where high schoolers just shop the houses? Like, like, I'm just gonna sleep over, like, Cassie, just Pastors suitcase back for the week. Like what up? That's completely insane. Hey, Miss Jacobs by we're gonna go bang. See ya. Like, whoa, it really is

33:10 really crazy. And like I said, like Miss Howard, like I'm gonna do get that more. Like I was thinking in my head like God, you're just gonna let your daughter like dip with a suitcase. Like what are you thinking? But a part of me is like maybe she's just over at like tough love. Like you're just being like such an idiot. Like I don't know. I still would be like for you. Get back in the house. Yeah, like you don't get Have sleepovers right now. Like you're literally like, going berserk, you try to kill yourself with a wine bottle opener like a minute. A guy like me to stay home. Yeah. Fuck when order some

33:40 Pizza Hut watch The Bachelor and drink some more of this shitty wine Chardonnay. No, they were watching A Millionaire Matchmaker. Oh, yeah. That was so funny. She's like I just want to watch but we didn't match maker. And then what'd she say? She was like, silly. What an exorcism? She was like, your sister needs an exorcism. She really does. We get Cassie in the tub again, to she's really loving the tub life. Yeah, Cassie and Cat are just like real heels, right now, cat really of cats on Cassie's level.

34:11 She's not just the she's a heel. She's a villain. She's like, yeah, she's being bad. She was being bad. They've both taken the heel turn. Yeah. Cos he's really just like let it. And she's letting me down minute by minute though. She's really just, I don't know. She's like that girl. I just hate. Yeah. She's like everything in a girl. You want to hate? So, self-centered constantly playing the victim. It's all about me. Always read Alexi to like, really like Lex, he's always been so supportive of her people that

34:41 have her back so bad. I mean, gonna come out of this with no friends that play is going to be a wake-up call. Honestly, lucky need even still wants to talk to her. I'm going to be honest for the worst. But like I'm also a little surprised. I was thinking the play was going to be like all about like her family and Cassie, I did. No, she's bringing the friends into it. So this is going to be interesting. Oh, yeah, it's gonna be about everyone. I kind of like that. But I'm also like good for her like Lexie. Once again, like coming through like

35:11 the most mature one because it's like yeah, this friend group is like a fucked up and crazy. Do you think Ethan is going to be playing Nate in the hood? Oh, do you think so? Who else would he be playing? Oh my God. Ethan, who else I will die. I will die. I mean, hilarious wheel of a king that plays. I mean you keep there aren't that many like 66 like 200 pounds, dudes, at school, know it like a play. So you're probably gonna have to go with like kind of a scrawny. Oh my God.

35:42 You're right. I didn't even think about that. That is so cringy and funny. That would be hilarious. I feel like next week's gonna be really comedic because of the play, like there will be like some intense moments if I hope it's like funny. I hope so. This will be, this one is I feel like I'm will be, I don't know. You can just tell like, from the, like little sneak peek. You can tell they're all at the play. And they're like, what the fuck like this is about us. Like, like bitches. Are you surprised like you all have been acting crazy this season? Like, yeah, like the whole school knows about you. All just

36:12 being like the messiest, most insane people ever, literally like Euphoria hide, knows everybody. Else's is trying to go to class and like, do their homework. Yeah, a lot. I'm trying to think of like anything else, like other because I know I want to get into the night and Maddie thing. I guess we'll just go there. Sony gets the gun. Which they tries to get the he looks for the desks and Kyle left him a little like, fuck, you know, which was that was funny. I was just a little sticky know what it sounds like, man of the house now being the man of the house now

36:42 or whatever. Wow, nice call. Thanks. I also, I feel so stupid. I didn't know Cal dipped like, for good good. I thought he was just like, well, cause he was like, pissing. I was drunk and I know you took the family portrait and like laugh, but I thought that was just him being dramatic. Like, I'm gonna go on a walk like kind of thing. I didn't know he was legit, like, I'm fine. He's I don't know, done with that family. We even talked about that because I'm Italian just kicking it. I don't know because we can cook. So the motel. Yeah.

37:13 Yeah. No, he's out out out like he wrote every single member of that family off. He said, fuck you. Like I'm not part of this anymore. He's gone. Wow. Peace out Kyle. I think we'll come back at all. Yeah. Well, I think he'll still be on the show. Really? Yeah, for sure. Well, I don't know. I mean there's still the like taping. Hang the tape is still out there. True. True need is still a fucking psychopath like, you know, well the whole like this whole thing of him and Maddie's room was just like I don't know. Alexa

37:43 dummy did a really good job of acting this part as well because like, how traumatizing would that fucking be? I mean, not only is it like someone with a gun but it's someone that you've like been in love with that. You like actually cared about like even though they're abusive, like you would never expect it to go. This far. I feel like it's the classic. Love like abuse where you kind of like don't understand how bad it can get like meaning like he choked her. Like that should have been a huge red flag, but she's always kind of cutting him slack. She loves them and cares about him.

38:13 But now it's like, girl. I hope now like you are done like he held a gun to your head. Be done after this. I think she will and I hope so because of her character maturing if this was last season, I might be skeptical but I feel like she's getting to a better place. Yeah, but holy shit, like if someone was holding a gun to their Her head like that, close to my basic like, Nate fashion. He's always so fucking calculating with everything. He really gets her by holding the gun to his head, because he knows how much he cares about him. And also, I'm sure

38:43 that like, I don't know if he was thinking about this, but it's also smarter because then he's not like criminally liable for like, threatening to kill her. He's like, yeah, it's almost worse. Yeah. It's like it's, we also knew that would fuck Maddie that would fuck up. I would just fuck her up. She's like a good person. I was well at her core like, Evo, like she has her moments but she's, you know, she's a decent human like, yeah, she's not gonna let someone kill themselves but Jesus, that was really scary. Yeah, of course. Horrifying traumatizing.

39:13 And also the whole time I don't about you. I was thinking, holy shit. She's really like, holding on to like, not confessing to having the Des. I shoot a long time, not saying the word. Yeah. I really hope she made copies. But like we all know she's not the brightest and unfortunately she probably has no car. Copies, I know, but I don't know. I'm like, if you had copies, he probably would have given up the disc right away. You know, that's true. That bums me out there because I feel like all this talk about. Oh, you know, I'm going to get an even worse

39:43 than Cassie. It's like, well, I hope then you have a plan. Looks like she didn't also what's the significance of showing. There's a camera on the alarm clock when she's Nanny, like I get it. But like, do you think this woman just know, she's always trying on her shit. He's gonna get caught. Like, I'm sure after that week, when she left the drawer open the cheese, she'd like Ray The special. And so they probably suck the camera in there. And now, they're gonna tape doing this, which means she's good. She doesn't steal anything. She just tries it on and stuff. I mean, the question is like what's gonna happen? Okay,

40:13 do you think this woman has bad motives? Oh, I've no clue. I don't know. Why. Don't know. Why would you? I mean, okay, I got it. I guess you would install cameras if he thought someone was stealing but she's not stealing. No, there's a difference. She's just bored and trying on clothes, like sorry. All my clothes. I be fucking pissed. I would too but this bitch doesn't seem to care. She's like drinking cheap Rose out by the pool. More like she's fine. They wouldn't have put the camera there in the first place if they could didn't care. That's true. This house is also. So ball early. I mean, what's going to happen? Like she's gonna get fired. I don't really know where that's gonna go. So that's to see this house is so nice.

40:44 I want to go swimming so bad. Yeah, and I bet they're drinking way better wine than we are. But yeah, we've been of course like I mean, just to my massive dismay right after doing them with Savage fucked up. Shit to Maddie need head straight for Jules. Last thing anyone wants. I've been so grateful that this season hasn't focused on some kind of like rekindling of like a jewels Nate thing. But clearly I feel like being hung out there as like a possibility for the

41:14 future. I got that and I agree with you, but you also can't leave it hanging. Meaning. I've always said this, there's always been a weird unaddressed like tension between the both of them. I'm not saying romantic at all, but like they did have like that weird back and forth chat going for So long and that was such a huge twist and season one finding out that like, shy guy, you know, like it's not neat actually liking her, it's him fucking her over. It was like a Revenge move. So I played there's just this on a dress like tension

41:44 because you never get to really hear like how Jules feels about that. So it was kind of weird to hear them exchange that little thing like where she's like, I meant it too. Also, I know I don't like it but also to like like, I don't know, I feel bad for Jewels because I don't people. Meatball a lot better because she's I don't know. She really did like have a crush on what she thought was like a hot guy in Season one. You don't even like, she know about me. She was the new kid in

42:14 school. So that was really. I feel like we just like I said, it was just went on a dress. Like that was really a lot harder on her than I think, we understand because it was like never really talked about again. I mean that was really traumatizing latest evil fucking guy like just let me know if I fucked with her and then he like, you know, Really scared her by being. Like I could like take it a prison, like it was really traumatizing for Jules. So I feel like that was never really like fully fucking move on and don't talk to his ass. I know, but I'm just saying, I don't hold her. Like I don't think what

42:44 she did was wrong. I mean, I think she genuinely probably is shocked because that's not what you would expect of me. Would you ever expect this evil fuck to be like, hey, I found this and like I don't want you to get hurt by it. So here you go. I think you can expect that. He's always being self-serving and calculating. I know, but that she wasn't like, super nice to him. She wasn't like, thanks, bro. Love you. She didn't take a beer from also. The beer trick is getting really fucking old. A still doing the beer trick. We get it, dude. I know we gotta

43:14 love drinking Bud Light and their truck. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was just like so scary to see him like move from like that situation with Maddie to the situation with jewels and him being so like chummy and like yeah, we're fo Charming with jewels, and it's Just like, damn. He's just like setting up the next one. He's immediately like setting the like lining it up. He's just lighting her up to be nice. Mine after Cassie and it's like, I know. I'm Portugal's really put through the wringer. She's got like she's dealing

43:44 with the aftermath of having the love of her life, like screaming her face and like I was on drugs with money out re with like started to talk about Jules and Ellie and then she was like nah, she's like fuck it. I don't want to talk about them. Yeah, that was funny. But I don't know. I just feel bad and then on top of like her having To deal with all this aftermath of Russia. She's having the now like find out that what she thought was a private moment is on tape, like that's so like fucked up and violating. I'm like scary. Like I just felt really sorry

44:15 for her like watching it. I was like fuck. That would just suck like At first. That sucks. It's so shitty. The Kyle does that. I know it really is. And I just hope that for her sake, I really do. Hope. That's the end of it. I don't want it to get out. I don't want like, I do for like Cal safe, but not for Her. Like, I don't know. I'm sure. Look, she's moved on from it though, you know, so be a bummer for to like come out and like be a thing. I'm sure it will eventually. Why do you think it will? The now she supposedly has the only copy what would make you think? It's coming

44:45 back out? You know what I mean? Well, she may be upset about like what happened, and she may choose to expose it to hold Cal accountable, knowing that he likes. Wow. We don't really know like how angry or not angry, she is about that. And she also might feel guilty, meaning, like I might But she knows that she does this a lot because like right, he's done it to other people. Yeah, that's always a possibility. It's possible that Maddie really did make copies and was smarter. I feel like I'm really thinking Maddie was smarter,

45:15 but I'm not positive. She's kind of like crafty and like Street Smart. So she was lying on her bed like thinking about it holding it. I'm like, why did they show us that moment if like she did nothing, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Well, that Maddie come on. I hope she made like a good, huh? Uh, movie of that shit. She's gonna like blasts it but even that would be kind of, you know, what sucks about that though? Is, if everyone's really rooting for this, like Jewels Maddie friendship, which they haven't shown that much, you know, it's not like a big thing in the show, but people were

45:45 kind of stared. They were, like, chummy a bit. I feel like that would really fuck her over. You know, I mean, what would fuck her? Because she knows that Jules is like, in that DVD. So if she exposes it and she's really actually, like friends are Jewels she'd want to, like, warn her. Like tell her, hey, I've got this desk. Like, yeah, but no one would be like there wouldn't be any like, blowback on Jules. Oh, no. Well, if it's your friend, you might want to warn them. Like, yo, I'm about to expose this video of you having sex with like a

46:16 dad. I mean, it's not like she's gonna like blasted on the air. And actually we just go to the police. Like I know this guy's clearly because of like, you know, just like Petty revenge for the cheating. I mean, the humiliation would be that his dad would get arrested for being a pedophile like, Yeah, the humiliation. I think also, they do such a good job with their rooms either the whole time. I was like, Maddie's room is such a Vibe. I really like this is so random, but I really like that construction paper hand holding the rose by her me. Or did you get that? Yeah. That was cool. I feel like that's a very like me

46:46 and you like Idaho them Hurley. I in this episode. Like what time is it ever? A person Tire episode? I know. And it's raining the whole time, really to scenes where I was like, this is the morning and the entire rest of the episode. I was like, what in the hell? Like when trees like I'm going to bed. Geez. Yeah, it's like the middle of the day. Like I knew this episode was heavy on like the orange, a yellow, you know, I don't get this is a critique like they're obviously going

47:16 for something very stylish. Yeah, but it was hilarious because I have no clue like what time of day anything in this episode surprise? No, I just love like her headboard the mirror headboard and like I'm loving all the flour lamps they have in these, they have them at the Howard. To those like porcelain flower lamps and on each nights. And if you look it's pretty cool. But her room is pretty baller for a high schooler like, it's fun. Yeah, but also I feel like this episode reminded me of Trials of ping during whatever. What was that one? The

47:46 trials of in tribulations of like, peeing? All depressed. Yeah, like the just that overall tone and like coloring of this reminded me of that episode like really well done a good episode, but, you know, not as like crazy as last week. I'm like, yeah, it was necessary. I would say it was still really strong though. See the little cut out though. It's cool that. Yeah, I mean, I think we're at an interesting place where we have took Wonder like this has been a season of many. If not all most.

48:16 All the characters facing significant consequences for their actions. Yeah, and I think we have to wonder like is Nate going to face any consequences this season. You obviously got beat by Fez in the first episode, but they really downplayed the impact. Act of that. Yeah, out of the hospital and healed up like a date later. And yes, Cassie. Now, right under his finger, like, she's just like I love, you continues to win and get away with fucking everything. So when, when are the consequences coming for

48:46 Nate if ever I'm so tired of him getting away with everything. Everyone is everyone's just being a shitty like Cassie. I thought it was really shitty of her like relate herself to ruin his. Like how dare you like I get it. I get what you're saying about like your dad leaving and stuff, but I'm sorry like that is The same as your dad fucking dying and being like taken away from you. Like, I've been developing like a debilitating drug addiction. Yeah, that's a little different. Like I said, it, like you've been through your shit, girl. We see you. We like, we understand but that's you can't compare

49:16 yourself to ruse life. That's just not fair. Yeah, fucked up. Cassie, really is just letting me down. Oh, hey let him do all right. What else? I don't know. What does what? What are we adding on this episode? Honestly, like I feel like we do. Good stuff, like biggest download ever meet. Ya know, after that, with the mom, trying to eat with Leslie, trying to get ruined or rehab and they're not going to give her a bed. Like we start. Our story starts out. So hopeful with Ali, talking about Hope,

49:46 and he's being so supportive and stuff. And then we're ending on, like, the worst night ever were, like the mom. It's like literally begging them to let ruined her rehab and they're not gonna do it. And why are they to this pole? Or like, they're just like, she's fine. Like, I didn't know. I think there's a lot of like competition for spots in those situations. Yeah, they are always like, you know, vigorously like reviewing who gets in and who totally? It's like, because I asked her, look what drugs for teams

50:16 like opioids, you know what I mean? Like that you could tell they were like probing her for like, hey, how serious is this? I'm like, all right, but another thing. So, do you think the mom found is she just like, Not knowledgeable with drugs or did she not find the morphine? Like her are member like her bruised arm from. They said that on the phone that she was doing heroin and thought it she wouldn't know from. Yeah. I don't know whether she did, or didn't find the thing, but you would probably just assume

50:46 that was heavily. Totally. I mean if what's the difference? Like, if you're getting heroin or morphine, they're both like hardcore. Like and yeah, different. I don't know why, but I was scared. I don't know about you, but I thought at the end of the episode, I was like waiting for them to show like that one. Mike spying on her outside her house or something. I'm just waiting for them to follow up on that. See my I think it's what I my take on this is that she seems like she's a really serious drug dealer. So I don't think she's stupid enough

51:17 to just like kidnap like a regular Suburban girl gotta bring that kind of heat down on her like unnecessarily really even though I mean technically she lost all those draw that's a lot of money. Like you don't think she's going to try. Hi, and well, I think she has plans. I just don't know that. I think like, I mean it all depends, like how flooring, how smart is? She like, you know, I think she probably doesn't need to bring that kind of heat down on her. Yeah, cause I'm seeing a lot of like attention and

51:47 it's not that hard to connect router her. Yeah. So I think she probably has other ways of planning to get that back. I don't think she's like, done with through by any means, but it wouldn't necessarily be the smartest thing. If you were trying to keep your like big serious drug, Under Wraps totally kidnapping like high schoolers. Like that's the kind of shit that really draws a lot of attention. You know. Reason Not Like A Lost Lake Street kid, no burn out. Like in her 20s, that doesn't have like people around that are going to follow up. If she goes missing

52:17 a great and when you're like, like you said, a hardcore drug dealer, you're not looking to like disrupt like Suburbia, like that's just not a good look like but yeah, I mean, I don't think she's done with through by any means and there's going to be trouble there 100%. Yeah. Don't know that. She's like lurking outside the House ready to kidnap, I guess I was just like, you know, I've been that long order mindset. I'm like, oh my God, what's gonna happen? I was like, it was gonna kidnap her and GOI. Like I was getting scared. Maybe maybe she's not that smart of a drug dealer and she's gonna do some shit like no, I don't actually think that's all. Just being nervous. We don't know that much

52:47 about her operation. Yeah. I know. I don't really think that he didn't seem like the brightest. I was just getting nervous because like you said the end of the episode was so like sad and depressing, they did that really long like drawn-out shot like from the Mom's room into their room and I was like, oh my God, what? To happen and then nothing happens. So does it go? Okay. We're good. Hello. So, depressing, just hearing them all, like, my daughter's going to kill herself. I was like calm. Yeah. Luka King is really a great role. All the actors are just like killing it this season, but she's done a really nice

53:17 job of, like, showing what, you know how shitty it would be, to be like a mom and the situation. Good mom in the situation. Yeah, totally. Poor Ruru. We just want, what's best for her. We wanted to take home that Super Bowl ring. We wanted to get clean like, you know, but yeah, we didn't knock at the smackdown. When is I kind of want I liked to this is really random, but I'm just I'm at the smackdown part of it. Like I like that Maddie was like I like to fight like

53:47 I love a good fight that girl because I was like, I'm so on the same page like there's just something good about like a fight like they're just adrenaline and like such satisfaction when you can just like yeah fight someone as shitty as Cassie. You don't feel like we're Morris. It's just kind of like fuck you like yeah. I hope that. I hope that Maddie has a better man, a because Cassie kind of like need some tough love right now. I feel like so far. She just hasn't gotten it yet, you know, like because

54:17 of the whole roof situation, the last episode and all the drama of like that intervention moment. Maddie didn't get to like have her full moment. Like she was like about tube then like had to be held back by the parents and I was like, damn it. Didn't you love all the memes with? They were like, they're showing Cassie like saying she's so crazy about. It's her like running up the stairs so scared from Maddie about it. But yeah, it's so funny because Cassie really is just like she's not intimidating. So this fact I was going to be like and then that is

54:47 gonna win. I'm ready for it. I am too. All right, was that it, is there anything else to cover from the episode know? This was a really good episode. I feel like obviously like, you know, Overall, the tone was just really sad. So like sorry if this episode of us, recapping wasn't super exciting but it's hard to be like haha like drunk when there's such a serious topic. We really ain't. Well, I mean other episodes of the season have been more outwardly like hardcore depressing or for some reason. This

55:17 one just got me down. Yeah, but I also think it was good and like it covered a lot of necessary points. Like, meaning it was a strong episode. It was like it just. Yeah, like you said Seasons been so good with the exception of the second episode of ink. Three episodes, just been super strong. I know. And I'm like, damn. What is this finale gonna bring us episode. It's going to be only crazy besides left. I can't believe it. I'm sad. I don't want it to go by like because I'm like, fuck, like we've had to wait so long for the season. I'm like,

55:47 God, they better be like finish a season 3 by now. It better be ready to release such a fast. I'm not waiting to four fucking years. Hopefully they just move quick on it. I didn't fare. Well, all right. Well, It is superlatives there. Let's hit our superlatives. OK, that's it. Our previous wrong, bitch. Yeah, say good night on this fine, Super Bowl, Sunday. Yes, let's do it. So superlatives. What do we got? First, Alex? I have a review for best dressed

56:18 for her great Malcolm X t-shirt agreed. Love that. I was such a Vibe really cool. I think I think I did like read about that too. Which Heidi Bivens always kills. It should also follow us on Instagram. So So cool. I know. I was like, well, I was honored. She's obviously like fucking amazing. She does such a good job with all the costumes on the show. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, that was a good fine. But I was going to say I read like I think it was in Vogue or something. You know, one of those many articles they put out about the costumes that it

56:48 was like a cool like vintage. Find. Yeah, so it was pretty subtle. I mean, that's a score. All right, how about were stressed or unstressed? I mean, obviously, like Cassie looks pretty horrible. Their face mask in the tub. Just like she's really just living frosting over. Let's hear it too. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go cat though for what? She's a good cop. Okay, if you probably what she's wearing when she right now, she looked cool. She's

57:18 at the Ethan break up. She I thought she looked fantastic and I love her eyeshadow. I like that. It looked cool. But the shirt she's wearing looks like it's like pants like Pockets. Over her boobs. It's So like weird and like I think it's cool. It looks like someone like you made it into like a top. It's like a Lizzie McGuire like outfit. I kind of loved. I loved Jewel shirt at the end. The cat holding the kite. Yeah. Jules how to get your to. I was fun. I like the

57:48 vibe. Yeah. I mean this whole episode was a little more like, you know, yeah, the tone was dark, so we didn't get a lot of bright like crazy costumes writing. But yeah. All right. How about the bay, the bab episode? For me Ali. Yeah, same the diarrhea jokes were real head. Bring in the humor showing support to the roof and I still can't believe. He literally looked at the mom and was like, no, not you diarrhea and he's like you too tired.

58:18 Mmm. I've been wiping her ass all week. Yeah, maybe Leslie's like yeah. I thought Ali was like maybe a romantic Vibe, but I don't know about this guy. Yeah, I'm gonna meet diarrhea jokes. But yeah. Show and support, showing up, looking out for Gia, always neglected. Just someone that Ali sees her. And yeah, just such a good guy all around and just like supporting the mom. Like, I didn't really think about that that much, but it is sad that she really is just like a single mom out here

58:48 like dealing with some of the hardest shit. Dude, for sure. It would be brutal. I hope he comes around more. I hope he's around more to like, cook that chicken or whatever. They're making. Yeah, could be. All right. How about the the Big Four? All dirty rat bastard as if I have to ask. I know. Right neat, obviously. And honestly, if you wanted to like, once again, stray away from the usual of always saying, that's the worst. I mean, he absolutely was because of the gun shit. But like Cassie honestly, close second because this cat s. She's does

59:18 Ethan so dirty, that's true. He's been so sweet to her and he did. He just deserves so much better than that. You know, he just deserved an honest break up, at least. Yeah. I don't like fuck of this head and play em, and it was really a shallow, but But I just hate casting more this season, though. I was bummed that she didn't at least at least not once address that. Like, she might be sad about losing a friendship with like Maddie. I don't know. It's really well. Yeah. All right. I was the class. Clown Class Clown. I mean, the diarrhea do top is

59:48 probably like why even? I don't know. Maybe not like funny, but like Fez was so cute, like laughing and talking about the play. Oh, and when he was like, what he's like, I hope I get to like kick nights ass again. You should add that in the play. Like that was funny. Yeah, that was really it was as cute a lot of really good. And how about song Stand by me? I mean that was the one stood out to me the most. That's just like a classic. Yeah. Same this one thing I will say not what I'm like super critical of

1:00:18 it that the season has definitely not brought it with the music as hard as season one did. No, I think the purpose with that. But like you said though, like I think it's just because there's so many intense scenes. That like, what are we gonna do like well ruse like You know, yeah. Now I got a Jolly Rancher with snot coming over knows. We don't need the Labyrinth like yeah, I mean, I'm not like being super critical of it. But season 1 was just packed with hits. Like every episode was chock-full of like trendy great songs. And so many of them were like, kind of like

1:00:49 overlooked like yes, it's from yesteryear and it was all over the map. It was like we'd go from like Blow the Whistle Too Short to like a really cool. I don't know. Like there was so much. Variety last season. Yeah, I feel like the season hasn't brought the the same depth and there's just less music and where is its kind of stuff? You know that you're more familiar with. I haven't like discovered any like killer hits from this the show this season. I grade I hope they stick to film. I feel like once again

1:01:19 the film is looking really nice. You look this whole season looks so good. It looks just so much better than last season like it's it was a good choice. Yeah. I like the season. I wonder if they'll stick with it or if Sam. Seems like, fuck. This is so hard. Like, I bet it is a lot tougher with film. Yeah. I don't know if they were able to do this whole season with it. Yeah, doctors are really set their game out there. Really just killing it. So I bet they don't have to do that many. Like, take some shit. They're all pretty. Like a steamed. Yeah.

1:01:49 Yeah. So esteem so stand but yeah, I live in song. Are we going to do? Is there anything else we can do? Will do change our minds bitch. And before we do, I will issue a retraction. And last week, I erroneously conflated Henry Miller with our host. Gonna bring that up. That's one of the change my mind. No, I will. I will retract that. I was just being sloppy, and I'm not overly, I'm not overly familiar with either. So, I'm gonna give some context and Shadow. They didn't leave their

1:02:19 name didn't really do my due diligence there. But yeah, thank you to whoever pointed that out. Yeah, it was Anonymous, but they said, they said Arthur Miller was married to Marilyn Monroe, not Henry Miller. But love the Pod with a little heart. So, thanks for the nice. You for the correction. Alice was such a fucking idiot. Yeah, big foam Alex like, I go to Euphoria. Hi everyone. My class is never did my homework. So not really necessarily A change our minds, but we had a lot

1:02:50 of people at least five or six people say that they think the movie and the background was the Lost Poise bathtub scene, which you and I really didn't get a chance to like Watch again and follow up. So yeah, and you were saying like honestly, it was so fast. I don't even know if there's really a way, we can, like, no fair that they're right. I'm impressed because that is such a brief shot. But I believe it. I left the leg. I'd have to check it for myself. You have to think again, though. It would fit with their, to their movie taste,

1:03:20 you know, anyone with five people reaching out. I'm surprised that five different people thought it was that, so I guess that What Makes Me, Maybe think it's like legit tentatively confirming loss. Boys, someone wrote not a not necessarily trying to change our mind, but feel like you guys did not discuss that not only did Cassie not hook, not only sorry. Not only to Kathy hook up with Maddie's X, but that man was her abuser and is abusive. So stupid Ivan. I do agree with that.

1:03:50 Everybody talked about me being an abusive shit at all the time. So it's like, yeah, that goes without saying, but like yes, of course, like he is that's problematic. I guess it's not just like, oh, we like think that's Sometimes she's like a ship from for doing it. It's like, yeah, you're right. Like, he's an abusive. Like actually abuse a check, the shit out of like your best friend, and he's probably going to check this shit out of YouTube or also another change our mind. Someone wrote hear me out. I'm sorry, but I just don't feel any sympathy for Cal. I totally understand

1:04:20 that his dad was homophobic and abusive, which affected him, but he didn't have to stay with Marsha when she got pregnant. He very easily could have still gone away to college. And to be honest. It was his own actions that put him in that. At position, he made a series of bad decisions and then he stayed with those bad decisions. He is a grown ass man and he could have lived a true version of himself, but he chose not to plus. He is one of the main reasons. Nate is so fucked up. So sorry, but I do not agree. That Kyle isn't the main villain? I just are no, I agree with you both that Cal is not the

1:04:50 main villain, but I just don't feel we need to feel sympathy for him. I mean, all of those things are accurate. I didn't change my mind. I don't dispute any of those things. I agree, but I can still feel some level of sympathy. I mean, there were a hundred percent, right? Like he, yeah, he made his own bed, and he's lying in it. For sure. He could have taken action at any point in his life to move things in a different direction, but I think you could still feel sympathy for people without always

1:05:20 agreeing with their actions. Like, of course, I don't agree that I can also feel Sympathetic towards them and also says this week he's like a deeply flawed guy and that's a yes like yes, he is super flawed. I don't want to like yeah anything it's not like he's like totally cool in my book now or anything. I'm also started after the conversation with Marcia. I really do agree with you that I think now it's fair to say that Cal's not the only reason it's fucked up. No, of course not so I do feel like I don't I feel like

1:05:50 this is almost saying we should feel a little more bad for Nate and I don't sew You know, there's always been more more going on. Yeah, so I appreciate the the reach out and the words there, but I don't think that changes my mind. I am going to still stand with my point of having empathy for Cal. Yeah, he's a, he's a flawed guy looks to whip his dick out and piss on the floor and gently cleans it up. This one's just a cute one to end on. It's not a change our mind, but someone wrote

1:06:20 thank you so much for your episodes and Recaps. Alex. I need those. My recommendations though. Okay. Yeah, so I mean, like, I'm not some like anime Master. Like my tastes are like, not anything like super unique. I like, you know, like a lot of the popular stuff from the 90s and the 2000s. As far as shows go my favorite all-time favorites, Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I think is like an absolute fucking stunning master piece of sci-fi my new ones death. No religious shutout does move death notes. Great. We talked

1:06:51 about that last week, but I just finish that with Alex and it was It's so good. Highly recommend. Anything shinichiro Watanabe does is amazing. I think Studio Ghibli Studio ghibli's amazing. Obviously, watch every movie seriously outside of that. I think the only stuff I could recommend that's kind of like less like Center is I really like a lot of the 80s like horror stuff. There's a lot of like really great graphic anime from the 80s. A lot of it from like mad house Studios.

1:07:22 What's the one I really like nightmares. The is amazing. I like golgo 13. Goku midnight. I hmm. Demon city, Shinjuku the worst. But no, I mean, fucking obviously like the to the to, like, Titans of like anime movies. Ah, Kira and Ghost in the Shell. I've watched Ghost in the Shell, like three times in the last year, and every time, that movie, just absolutely like blows me away.

1:07:53 I think that's like one of my all-time. Time. Favorite movies. Well, but we also have a couple of or is incredible. We also got a couple of nice request for music playlist, which like, I was going to talk about. The only reason we haven't, like, done anything with that is because the actual show, itself Euphoria drops the entire Seasons playlist on Spotify after every episode. Yeah, so I just haven't like doubled down on, like, repeating what they already. Do. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, but I, so if you actually just didn't know that I wanted to shop that out because there are each

1:08:23 season is on You can listen to it. Like Euphoria HBO post set. So it's not that, we like haven't wanted to do that. That's just like, yeah, I'm a little less invested in the music this season to Sam and I was kind of stoked that we were starting out with like kind of the classic rock route, and it feels like that's like falling a little bit by the wayside and totally season one. I was just so heavily invested in the music. Like I said this, they were really servicing. A lot of great stuff. I'd never heard before. Yeah. Well, I think that just about wraps up Ginger. Mine bitch. But

1:08:53 yeah, thanks for listening. Missions. Keep them rolling in. Yeah, change our minds, you know, say whatever you want to say fight us. Let's have a smackdowns. Go Maddie and Cassie. Let's get violent Super Bowl. Super Bowl far, too. Knocking extreme. Mr. Speaker, knocking extremists. So, next week, we've got the big play. Oh, I can't wait. Yeah, and we are definitely, I promise you. We will have better alcohol next week. I'm like, embarrassed that we drink. This?

1:09:23 Should we To accompany the play, I guess, champagne is what you would drink at the place American champion. He's good with everything but I really do. Maybe we'll like have a signature cocktail next week. That like will call it something we could do little drop a recipe. Everyone's like, put out music. No will drop some give you like like raspberry Chambord and like a little drop a little raspberry in there somehow. Okay, so it's nice. Yeah, we can drop a couple before you drink ideas. That could be cute. You can make like french 75.

1:09:53 Oh. Yes, let's do that. I got champagne cocktails like both our favorites. Jen. And champs. Yeah, for Lexi Fescue or fax good for Lexi. Oh, that was another one. Not a change our mind, but we had someone on Twitter member, they like reached out and they were like, I'm disgusted by like The Fez Co and Lexie relationship. They were saying that like people are like criticize or not people. This person reach out to us on Twitter and saying, but like, they were mad that people are loving the whole like Fez and Lexi relationship. Because Fez is so much older than her. I'm like, honey,

1:10:23 I think He's like, literally maybe two years older. We don't fucking know. That's a high school. Dropout parties. He's everyone's high-school drug dealer. Really, don't know, fezzes Age, first of all, and second of all, even if he is headed to, I'm sorry, we do though, like he goes to high school parties and he drug deals to high school and even if he is older, so what like Lex he's a senior which means she's 17 or 18. So like so fucking what like, she's a legal adult. Don't judge if he's not a legal adult. She's about to be so just like, I'm calm down. I feel like this season. It's not a problem out of do, you agree? I played this.

1:10:54 He's and people are being so fucking dramatic about this type of stuff. Like they're getting. So sensitive to light, the smallest details in the show. It's like calm down. You're reading way too far into this. Like like you said, we don't even know if this is a joke. It's just it's so stupid. Yeah, right. Like at least confirm, the man's age before we rip on. Oh, it's also like, how do you like Colin Jewels were fucking last season? Like there's other things that are a little more worrisome than Fasco and Lexie like being together like their shows like obviously close in age. It's not like there's like some unbalanced power dynamic.

1:11:24 Easily triangle like exploiter something. It's very sweet. Just a normal relationship between people that are very close in age. He literally held her hand. He's such a gentleman. So let's calm down. I just, I was just throwing that out there because I was like, ah, no. Fusco is a gentleman and a half. That's all we know, Lexi's legal. So, whatever. I know, it's just silly. Well. Hey, next week. We've got a lot. Yeah, we're rapping now. Now,

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