S2 E3 - Rue + Imagination = Rumination…?

00:33 Hello, you for Ian's, we're back. We are back. They are back. I'm not gonna lie. I feel like I'm on like a two-day, like hangover right now. We had a pretty wild weekend in Hangover right now. I know I still feel hungover. Hence why I have like a diluted vodka soda with like barely anything in it, but Alex, you have a fancy dream tonight you fancy despite drinking. Many martinis this weekend.

01:03 I'm drinking a martini. Okay, a very gay litchi martini with a little umbrella. Yeah, but that's like that's kind of good because I Calle goodness. You kind of see his gay side. Yeah, house like gay bar. Jury. My chi Martini. No, we were we were actually really sad because we were like God where such fucking idiots to not have Cooks tonight of all nights. I feel like we're doing a disservice to Kyle. All right our local liquor store. This is I'm coming up big with the cooks lately.

01:33 They don't ever have it in stock. So I need to find a better. Distributor New York City, has a Cook's trout right now. I need to start like wholesaling, like cases of cooks, you really do. But you know what? Maybe next week? We'll like double bottle it up and will chug it for Cal Cooks campaign? Hit us out or costly sponsor us. Well, every sponsor. I wanted to be Cooks room fan. Oh my God, I would die. I feel like they didn't know marketing. Those will probably never hear from them. I've looked into it before. Roll, I don't know about

02:03 you, but I feel refreshed. I feel like this episode was so much better than last week. So I feel I'm feeling like strong again. I was feeling kind of this kind of dumps last week. I just wasn't feeling the episode down in the dumps little down in the dumps last week's episode sucked, but I felt good about what I said after the first episode. But like I give this season the benefit of the doubt after how strong episode 1 was I got this episode was really strong

02:34 and made me feel good about saying that. Yes, I agree because I felt right. Do you didn't get the title. Did you ever like establish? That means I'm a little confused by certain little bullies. What does that even mean? You have for the first time to my knowledge? I don't know. Special episodes. We broken from the song title naming structure. Okay? Is named after a piece of art by Robert rauschenberg. Oh shit. That is the name of the episode ruminations big. And little bullies is the name of the piece. What? Look like well, I can show you.

03:04 It is kind of a clammy. I'll post it on our story. Kind of a collage esque photographic piece. Okay, I don't like kind of cool on a very, like surface level. I don't see any like direct comparisons between the piece in the episode, but I think the name kind of signals to like the inherited. Trauma of, like, abusive relationships. Where the abused He then becomes the abuser so

03:34 you can tell Young Cal being the little bully turning into the big bully, and they being the little bully, who will inevitably turn into the big bully. That makes 100% sense to me. That would be my read on it, but I don't know how much that relates to the piece or if that's what a am. I thinking they made up a word room. I thought ruminations was a made-up word. Hey, I thought it was like imagination but like Rue like rumination know you did you actually think that it shut the fuck up. I swear to God I thought it was real

04:04 imaginations. Are you fucking kidding me? Not only this. I know what we kind of come to the table like without talking about this beforehand. So anyways, we'll just your mind's eye mask that's like, pondering something like thinking deeply about something. No. No, but once you just show me that art piece, it all hit me like a like a shit ton of bricks and I was like, oh my God. Now, I know that word. Like, if I was reading it in a book, I would like to know it if that makes sense.

04:35 But like I was just looking at it. Only from a Euphoria standpoint smells like weird. Rio, imagination equals rumination Tisha. So going right into the episode. Okay, I was dying for the first time. I was like, you know what, I'm going to do the acute and so story of us, like, watching Euphoria. So I was like, holding my phone, like steadily, like getting the shot and immediately after the HBO goes like, they're just like a fucking white disgusting ass hanging out of like, Haynes

05:05 underwear. So, I I couldn't post it because Instagrams fucking pussy, I won't let you post. Oh, really? I don't you couldn't post about. You couldn't put a little probably Bandit and I don't want to be banned like, well, we're about to release our episode. I'm not positive Instagram sucks. You know how they are. They'll lock. You feel like anything there. So prudish, I'm not like positive, but you know what? I mean? I didn't want to take the risk. So they really do open right with the, the ass. And I'm sorry. I'm liking all these like, period piece like Throwbacks. It's

05:35 kind of fun to get like a mixture of Modern verse like you can tell that they enjoy doing like the really like getting into like oh, yeah, the time the period. Oh, I think I have the episode playing out loud. I need to meet a. There we go. There you go. I'll be right. Let's go. But yeah, as usual watching the episode, so we get to enter young young cow young cows world. I like the the kid that played young Kyle did a good job. Yeah, very good. They had a him and the other guy Derek had a very

06:05 believable. Like homo, relax engine. Yeah, connection. Can I ask you a question? Like really I'll just write out the gates and you don't have to answer if you don't want to but like, do you ever is this something like, I want to phrase this, right? Like, have you ever felt that with a front? Have you ever been really deeply connected with anyone? And I know like, is that normal for a guy to like kind of like that? It just depends on the dude. I don't think I know you're straight. I know I'm not like asking that level of but like meeting. Do you guys ever

06:36 go through like I'm Gonna say like girls. I feel like it's talked about a lot that we're like, where our emotions on her sleeve or more emotional. So like I always joke or not joke, but I always say, I could see myself like falling in love with a girl, even though I'm not, but I'm really not by, like, I'm not into girls. I'm very straight, but in very vulnerable places in my life, I could see myself like falling in love with a friend. If I felt a deep connection. Do you know how many guys that ever go through that weird? Like in college as it have talked about it. I know but like I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to say

07:06 that we're Mental, you're not like in love, but you might just be like, Curious. I mean, I felt like attracted to dudes before, but I'm not interested in like, yeah, going like a full. I know that already obviously, I know, ten years, so I know that, but I'm not like in general, like, is that something guys are really open about talking about? Or is that like not because girls talk about everything? I don't know. I mean, just in general. I'm not someone that talks about. Yeah, exit on with people but like, I don't know about like, I don't know because I just like something sir.

07:36 All like that. I don't know. I just didn't feel like I'm riding way. They were romantic. I felt like they were just so deeply like they were deep and that friendship and like lean on each other for at. I don't know. I just I know there was like more than that. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. The good water tells it all. Yeah, they're so cute though. I really like them though. Like meaning I don't care if their friends or gay together. Like I just think they're cute in general, even as friends. Yeah, they're like friendship. It's a vibrator. I also am liking the like Brad Pitt like hairdos like Like

08:07 Matt Damon looks idyllic stairs hot. Yeah, this is good Derek. Yeah, Derek and Derek. He's a dick though, but he is hotter. You think he's a dick. Yeah, he was. There are both like total mean. He's no. Yeah, they were bullies were they I don't know who just, like always having fun like, goofing off. I didn't really take it as like they were bullies. He was like gills ran someone off the fucking road just like me. That's true. Yeah. I mean, I don't like they're just kids but like there's fucking around like assholes. Well, Our wrestlers,

08:37 which you. And I were joking about like wrestling. So because we're never that ha you kidding me. The wrestlers are always like the big leg dumbbell, like kids. So we something like block. Yeah. I feel like, it's like a way to get out aggression. If you're not good at like other sports because you don't have to be like that good at wrestling. Do you like it's not that like labor-intensive? Like I growing up. Like guys have all sizes wrestled. Nanami. By the guys will like, you know what I'm time. I like guys were like stick then we're wrestlers and I was like what? Like

09:08 We Griffin up on some dudes like that all sweaty and stuff like yeah, not like a sexy way to Liang bi up on a dude and dudes. I don't want to get beat up like yeah way that I can't wait. I don't know. I wrestling always seemed really fucking lame to me because it's like, if I'm gonna like fight someone, I want to fight them. Not have all these fucking like, little it was like, you gotta grab them this way and flip them on their back, like a turtle. This one. I like, I just saw your one of my some water. I don't want might someone if I don't. Fight someone, you want to beat the shit out of it.

09:38 Yeah. Yeah. Oh no, no wait, but all like, yeah, I feel doing for me in high school to like, and once again, probably super generalizing, but I feel like guys that did wrestling. We're like, closeted gay, guys. They were always like, jocks and like, China over, like, prove themselves. Yeah, for them. Later in life. I found out like wrestlers, gay surprise. I don't know. I always probably thought Sports specifically, just where I grew up was definitely like that. But anyways, So also, I liked his so that

10:08 is his wife. Right? The young girl. Yeah, Doug. Yeah, but I got young Marcia. She's hot. She's definitely not hot better back. Then we see who grew up hotter and that's, oh, yeah. Well, that's why at first, I didn't think it was hurt because I was like, there's no way like, she's the same as like, she's hot. Yeah, say, I'm sure it was like, are there going to be more developments here? Like, in the next episode? Is she gonna like, are they gonna give away the baby and he has cow with someone else. Yeah. Is her? No, not that. It

10:38 matters all too much, just so that I understand these characters background is Cal gay, or is he by so, does he enjoy sex with like Marcia? And like he likes girls or do you think he's just totally use doesn't really like flat out like pants exo-k way, given that we now know he's in the in the checks. Yeah, in the dudes because he enjoyed sex with Marcia, you can browse women like so I think Cal we can just say is like pansexual. He likes everybody. Cool. That's what I Third, I just felt like it wasn't one of those things

11:09 where he was just having sex with Marsha just to like have a girlfriend. If it's really the say that he liked it and stuff. Yeah, he was my big. Yeah. So do you think it's funny and movie is when couples? But like have sex next to each other. I'm like that just doesn't happen in real life. And if it does you're really popular. Like every time they do show that in movies. It's in the 70s and I was it like that or there. We are. We just all like imagining. It was like that because we want to think of that time, as being like, there's been, like sexy. I'm like, I don't fucking know, I wasn't alive. Maybe that's how it was. I in the 50s. Everybody

11:39 was making out in the same room all at once, because I was like a thing. I could maybe get into that, if I was a really fucked up and be with people. I didn't know very well, but I could never like, if it was one of our best friends and their girlfriend, like, I don't want to see my best friend were talking. Someone you like an ogre, like they'd have to be really hot but we have really hot friends and I still don't want to see them boning someone next to us ever. No, no, no, like you know that one laughing. It's so crowded. Yeah, for sure. No one that would never be sexy ever.

12:10 So anyways, so we got Cosmic whole background story. Any other like weird thoughts you have about that. Like I don't know. I liked the gay bar scene, obviously was really cute. Like, yo, did you feel empathy for cow? Yeah, because I mean, at this point, he's just a, he's just a kid. He's obviously got a dick dad. He's nowhere near as much of a fucking dick. Yeah. He's in a lot more mellow. He just, you know, he never comes across like a fucking He's just a closeted guy with a

12:40 douchebag bad. Yeah, we got a lot of fans writing in saying, like, TBH never thought they could do anything. That would make me feel sorry for Cal. I was like, that's a mood. I feel the same like I thought for sure college is always view like fuck him. I don't feel as like crazy about that because I've never like all out and like house like evil an irredeemable like me. I was never like, oh, it'll be stupid if they try to really Hal like Kyle's just like the classic like America. And Meathead dad, he like totally really in the sport. I mean, he really fucked

13:10 with me like a lot because of all his shitty like fucking attitudes about stuff. Yeah, but he never struck me as like, as like flat-out. Like evil as natives. He doesn't seem like he has that like, real, like malicious streak. He's just a fucking idiot. But racist, one all wrong. Well, interesting to, we got like only like one tiny clip that in good deep into it, but it's very clear that Kyle's Dad fucking sucked. Yeah, right. So yeah, of course, like, I'm not, I'm not like shocked. That I'm like feeling more empathy for Colin this episode because he didn't ever seem

13:40 so like yeah, redeemable and also, he's just a baby at this point. Yeah. It's it sucks. He gets that call. He's got a baby then it's not with casseon me. Just kidding. It's not Cassius baby. I don't know. It's super weird, but I just overall felt like his story was very like I don't know. It just gave us a little more insight, but I guess. Yeah, I agree. I have a little bit of empathy hardest thing. Is

14:10 that like, knowing that he like, went through this. How is he like raising Nate the same way? His dad raised him, you know, yeah. And during such a macho, like fucking ass about everything when, you know, he was like, at the gay bar, like totally best friend. And I was, I don't know about you, but I was thinking to like, I don't know why, but I immediately was thinking, His oldest son is like his regret. We don't know for sure. But like right mean Aaron

14:40 is the probably the Kitty have a smart the new node. Oh, you're right. I yeah, I forgot about him. So yeah. Yeah, maybe that's why he's so like Aaron's never like shown maybe era he like this. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. I completely forgot that he existed only reason. I think the reason that episode before this, I don't, well, he's just like a peripheral. But Aaron was because memories, going up the stairs and his brothers, like, or know, what is in this episode? He's like the Mom is like, Kyle, dinner's ready and it's, like, terrifying me like shoots himself with that rifle. And it's all just like a drum. So it was

15:10 neat. But no, it's Aaron. He's like, dolly is right here. So Aaron got like one moment. Yeah, good. Yeah. I completely forgot about him. But I was thinking like, that's probably why. I like they have such a like tumultuous like at the carnival and he's like, fuck dad. I was like, this is the kid that, like, fucked up my like. Yeah. Well, yeah, so I don't know, Selena think about but another opportunity to show The backstory for the little sun and the Mystery. Where is the little Sun? They skipped out again. They really holding out on us.

15:40 We don't know where he is. Are we gonna get the story of the little sun and season two? I like, don't know. Yeah, I feel like, no, I feel like it's just the fuck up and then I'm like, Sam's. So detailed that like, there's no, we're going deep on the Jacobs, family history so I could see it. Yeah. We're getting a lot of Jacob's backstory. So I don't know. We'll see. Well then we got a great opening scene of rude. Just like doing her fucking thing. I do love this song. I forget the guys name, but whatever

16:11 irresponsible. Okay. Oh Bobby Darin Bobby Darin, Call Me Irresponsible. Sorry whatever. I'm a little drunk song, great song Good representation of what it feels like when you're really really high and when you're alone or you think she thinks she's alone. You can just Vibe the fuck out like yeah, sometimes I like a damn lie. I'm starring in a Broadway show. So I was thinking like that's rude right now. Like she's really feeling like she's the main character. Oh, yeah, been there.

16:42 But this thing gets dark very quickly, GN her have a little like one off and you kind of get to see a little more of like G is emotions towards shit. And then rou does the whole like school teacher? Like, I'm gonna break down, like, what? It's like to be an addict. Yeah, they really. This was like the episode where they really like. We're like, we're going all in on like breaking the fourth wall. Wall, the do a good job to wake. Well, they had the whole review Elliott presentation. And then later the Lexie, like reality show segments. Yeah, it's

17:12 fun. Yeah, it was funny. I like how they had the dick pic in there. And that was like a call back to last season when she had the slideshow. Yeah. She's like, oops. That was funny. That was fun. I don't know about you two, but like, I've like known addicts, growing up. So I feel like they also did a really good job of making like, relevant to like more. What do you call? Like more gen Z like fives, but it So, like told in a way that makes sense. Like, meaning, all the steps. I've literally seen like, family members people. I know who are addicts. Like, do this shit like Gaslight.

17:43 Yeah, like, make up excuses. And it's almost like they just like, would rather make up excuses and Gaslight because they don't, they think that that's like not hurting someone. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, for me the big, the big takeaway from this episode like the big like learning character-wise was that roux is like even more of like a cold hard bitch than we ever thought before. Yeah, like an obviously like that's partially addiction mostly addiction probably. But she really liked, I think more than we've ever seen before. She

18:13 is like, incredibly, like cold and calculating. Yeah, an emotionless in the way that she plots out like how she wants to like do this shit and get away with it in the way. She uses people in her life, the like get what she wants with, like zero regard for them zero, which like last season. I felt maybe it also, Could be like you said, it's not all just the addiction. Right? Like, it's definitely like a mixture, but I think also, it's the, the stage. She's in meaning like season one was like overdose

18:43 rehab. She's very vulnerable. She like fell in love really fast out of rehab. Like there was a lot more emotional shit going on. Now. I feel like it's almost like now that she's more set and her like school life and has Jewels. She's like going, it's like, she's not going down emotionally, but she's going down back down the rabbit hole of like I want to do. Eggs. As much as usual and hide it. Well, she's trying to have it all. Sure to have a double life. Yeah, and they're her that like means like really like figuring out how to like do drugs constantly

19:13 as we see for free. I do a lot of different ones, get away with it like and to get this, it like all cost. And yeah, I don't know. We just see like a new depth to her character and how like, what a dark like cool our leg to a certain extent, but yes, a heartless bitch character. She is. Yeah. There's all this. For sure. Gave us like a new dimension to that. 100%. When you say heartless, bitch. I think of, literally the seen her and Gia, which by the way, is Storm. Read like she fucking killed this. I love

19:44 her so much but I think she like really hurt. Andrew have a site hurt and Zendaya have really good chemistry because that seems really intense. Well, it's just crazy. She's like provoking Gia into these like intense like emotional arguments. And she said, she was going to commit suicide, although she didn't smoke weed. She was like, hitting her. Everything G is feeling is Like so fucked up and real pretend straight of acting through all of it. Yep, and it's all just a ploy. It's absolutely broke down and told

20:14 her baby sister that she if she doesn't do like some sort of drug. She's gonna like commit suicide and that's like why she's like, yeah, it's pretty hardcore. That's that. When you said heartless bitch. That's all I was going to bring up is that if you're just like throwing out suicide and pretending like you said like she's clearly acting a we don't know how much of that is really true. But I don't know. I don't buy it yourself intentionally. She doesn't give a shit if she dies doing drugs, but I don't think she would kill herself. Yeah,

20:45 she likes doing drugs. Actually wants to do more drugs, for sure, but super cute love her dancing, but then yeah, it gets dark as shit, and she's like if I don't smoke weed like I'm suicidal and poor Gia, baby Gia. My heart goes out to little G. I just wanna give her a hug. She's so cute. She's eating those talkies. She's just like trying to live her fucking life and ruins everything. Yep. She's like, you don't care. What Mama thinks and I was thinking, like, your has she's fucking right. She doesn't give a shit

21:15 about her family at all. Maybe like had her back of this hundred and ten percent. Yeah, razortail Savage. Anyway, fuck about, she's like, running into school doors, like, just she's a messy, that's normal. Right? No, she's not. The Doric people's fucking high. I know someone else here that's running too many Adora. I love Hunters jacket in the scene where they're sitting on like that, empty Canal or whatever. Don't know what that is, but I made a note of that. I don't know. I like it. Yeah, like it's like it looks like her artwork that was another

21:45 aspect of this episode. I like is that they gave a lot of room in this one for the characters to just like interact and like existence School exists without like giant Lake intense drama. There's just scenes of like ruined And jewels and Elliott, just like fucking around, and like, hanging out. And that was nice. I think it's really needed to, like, take the brakes from, like the hardcore, like high drama like. Yeah. And the like remind you, why you actually give a shit about these characters and like want them to succeed and to see them like

22:15 in like, more normal moments. Yeah, especially with some battles this episode did that. Well, especially them because last episode or last season it was just all Hydra. It's been a while since I've been like, oh, yeah. This is why I like people want like ruined Jewels like end up together. Like likeable as a couple, for sure, they did, but they need that like, time for you to give a shit about them, Hannah resent. Then we got this fucker. Elliot. I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it right now. Ahead of the game. I like, it was stuck. Elliott Ali. That's hot, but like, I do not stand anymore. I'm so

22:45 pissed at in this episode. I'm over him. I wanna go away, not hot. + do not know is hot. Do not stand, but I do like I haven't seen. It's funny how they like probe each other. I do think that's like a cute, like, Euphoria way of life. Introducing like the dynamic of the three of them. I think my favorite part was when the group was like, well, Jules is a whore. And then she's like, sorry, not a whore like a slut and then they're all like laughing. I just thought it was funny because they all kind of like,

23:16 the one thing I will say about Elliott is I think college page would never even like fancy the idea of like flirting or being friends with someone like Alex. I've been around guys like that and it's like, you're just all games. You're not like real. Is this fuckery in high school? Oh, I never said, I would have such a crush on him which is why I don't like him. Whatever. No I'm saying because I thought know what they're doing. That's why I don't like it. Meaning. He's flirting and fucking around with the both of them. But I totally

23:46 get why they're falling for it. So I'm not like faulting their characters because I'm like, that would be me like fucking nailed his ass right off the bat. He's too slick. He thinks he's too fucking cool. He's like he this guy's definitely up to no good. I said all along. He's got his own like game. He's got his own motives. He didn't catch. His motives are, do you think? Oh, he's just like, I think he's not Playboy. I think he's not high school Playboy. I think he's full of shit. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. Yeah, he knows exactly

24:16 how he's playing this situation. He's way too fucking smooth. I was trying to read all this shit on the wall behind. Is that his room? Yeah. Okay. I was like, trying to read all this shit and I actually like did and all of it was like, kind of stupid. It was like, oh my God. Sucks. It's like about what should be done. It's always like quotes. And so, I think they're trying to make him like the already like druggie and it's like, it's not work. He's like, the already like, fuck boy. He's like, there's always one. He says, that in marker, like, come on.

24:47 He's like the fucking manipulator, like the scenarios, what he's doing. He knows like the play. He knows how to like d, cool and like slick about like their sexualities to like, you know, Know what he wants. He's trying to you knows how to be cool about like say all the right things about Jules being trans and how it really cruising related to that called real. You guys how to get in like both their heads about everything and he knows what, you know, what makes me the most mad like, on a real level is Jules this season so

25:17 far. I've always stand Jules, I think, above all. But, like, I stand her even more this season. I feel like she's the most, like, the only one. That's like, not going over the deep end, if anything. She's like, in my eyes, like, She's trying to figure out like who she is, and she's trying to, like, kind of Branch away from last season, where she was very, like, baby girl, like dressing up long hair like, they were literally joking. She was a Slut. Like think she's a little more like androgynous, the season, like she's trying to like figure out like her. Start like where she's at? Like and in her special

25:48 episode. It was very clear that she went super in depth about like trying to find herself. So I feel like she's like doing a good job of that. Like I feel like she's like doing better in school. Like not trying to put on. She's really figuring herself out. Out. So, it's a bummer that wall. She's like, in the super like, confident face. She has to be Elliot. Who's like mine fucking her, like, when he was like, did rude. Tell you all that about, like, her being smart and like, all these, like, amazing things. It's like fuck you doing. There was a really clear progression from like her. Special episode 2, now. Yeah,

26:18 all the through line from last season to her episode 2. Now, with how her style has changed in between her haircut, which is there and like, very that was well done, feeling nothing. Funny because you didn't get to watch the bye. Same thing but it was cute. Jules like bagged or Jewels Hunter Schaefer begged. Sam for like a haircut and the light she on it. No, just houses Umbrella. Just splashed onto the floor out of his Martini. What's a classless?

26:49 Everything's like Castle is falling everywhere. Just a sloppy this sloppy but nothing like cow cow. Would never take his Martini like that. Anyways. How what are you drinking? I don't know. Yeah, anyways, so 100 shape really bad Sam. If she could get like a bob haircut. And he was like, no. He was super like, nope. That's just like, not where I want to see Jules. Yeah, he was really like, but then over the pandemic, I guess she liked asked him again. And

27:19 was like, after the special episode. He was a little more like soft about it cuz he was like, you know what? I'm actually not even just like being nice to you. I think it makes sense for her character to like, I think so. Kind of like that's what everybody does. When they Went through like a transformation. It's like you want to cut your hair. You want to dye your hair, you want to do something. So right? So there was actually like meaning behind it. Like she was like, I think it's good for me, but also like good for dad feels right. I also thought it was interesting that it seemed like, despite all this talk about like rules about Ruth sucking at sex.

27:49 I thought it was interesting that they had like, they're like steamy hook up out back and yeah go pretty. Well. I was like, why isn't like what's going on? Her fan go poorly and they didn't show at all. Like what the fuck is. Going on because that seemed pretty good 100%, some of our listeners wrote in about that. So they were like, I dropped like a story to saying like thoughts on like yeah, confused about the messaging there because I'm not seem like Jewels like initiated that super hard. Know. It seemed pretty like hot and like, mutually undertaken. I wasn't like, oh Russo, like sexless and jewels,

28:19 like making know. I felt like Pretty Natural and like, agreed. Someone wrote like that. They hated Elliot. I forget, but it was like, one of our listeners. Rather. They like hated Elliott, and they Also were mad because they were like, just because she didn't want to like fucked rules on the floor, was someone in the room with that's normally not everybody wants to do that. So it's weird that he would like, call her out, on something. Especially not him. Like, yeah, laughter. He's like, being all fucking weird about every and I don't think we're is not sexual at all. I think it's just not, everyone is the fucking same, not everyone's Maddy, Perez, and Cassie,

28:49 Howard, just like humping anything that moves like she's a little more emotional and like I think we have yet to see about I think we have to see but I didn't really like I thought that was weird but they had that scene. Yeah, and then tried to make this big boy, like Russo sucks. Yes, but I had sex in itself because I think sometimes you have to have like a balance and I feel like they're like yin and yang. Like Jules has always been a little more like forward about her sexuality. All right, so I think she finds that endearing about Ruth Andrews not like fucking becomes

29:20 Elliot. Oh, fuck it all. Yeah. So in other words, we just hate Elliot. I really do. Like I have changed my mind completely. So then we kind of just Dive into like Lexie, pretty much like I feel like after that we got all of her like crazy play shit, which is really random. But I kind of like where this is going. I like to think it's cute, but she's like amped about something and then she such like a bookworm like that's hot. It's gonna be a big fucking deal. Cassie's gonna push, pull up her fucking shit.

29:50 But yeah, I liked it. I thought this was all like funny and well done. I like that rule was late and she was like, she's high like what the fuck? And she's like 40 minutes late for like her interview. Yeah, I like the fake show was funny. I like, when I like the Euphoria. Does this type of leg? Give me two you like fantasy shit. Like fourth wall shit. Yeah, I think it's usually done. Well, and is like funny and interesting, and can I think that this season, they've already like, kind of pushed it further than last season, especially with this segment.

30:20 Yeah. So I'm excited to see where they take it. Like. It's getting like, very, very meta. Yep. So far. I like it. This Parts funny where she's like, Like dressing her sister Cassie and she's like a little more slutty but a little more tacky funny because every out they nailed it. Like every outfit they've brought out they like whittled it down until it was like the perfect Cassie outfit literally and then she was like, yep. Perfect. Is like the Trashy style Farrelly. Yeah. Yeah. It was cool. Oh, I just saw that fish.

30:52 Weird blob fish. We're blobfish upon. This story isn't her room. I just saw his name. We don't know. What is that fishies? That's my new favorite character allow. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't even think of a name our listeners were like asking us to ask the prop director. What the stuffed animals name was. I was like, I'm not doing, we should ask the prop director asking them what that is. The fish has a name like, you know that they call it something inside, you know that for sure they call it something on. So did you see that cute? So

31:22 I know that they have a dog on the side of for ya to keep everyone happy. Oh, I love that giant. Schnauzer to his me. It looks very similar to a Bouvier or something. Do be like it was made that up, but we'll just call them to. I would be appropriate. So this I don't know about you. Most terrifying part of this episode was Cassie getting up every morning. At 4:00 fucking am to get ready. I don't know why, but it scared me because he's wearing a mask on. She was like, becoming a fucking legs like rods. Like why is what are you doing?

31:52 She's completely lost her mind. She's going like full American Psycho. But let's, I mean, I took Bateman's like calm and like collected and she's like, anxious. Yeah, losing her fucking lie, you know what else I find interesting is that it kind of like, she's doing what Nate described. He liked. So much in season 1 like clean like meticulous, which means she's trying to be Maddie, she has. But I was just going to say though. I don't feel like Maddie is off this Vibe where she's scrubbing her body, right? Not

32:22 for am to go to school. I think Maddie's confident. So like whatever she puts on like she does like plan it and stuff, but that's why I was kind of like what but then that I understood when they showed them side-by-side and they're both world. It's because he's interpretation of this like handling it and approaching it differently. It's, you know what I mean? Like Maddie wouldn't be running. Rubbing fucking like deodorant and Jade rollers all over her fucking like chest every morning. Like that's not really her vibe. It's because he's gone completely out of her mind. She's absolutely out of her mind and nature. Walks

32:52 right by doesn't give a single flight. I did think it was funny that Kyle had to listen to them, bang. That was funny revenge and when they went downstairs after like just ferociously banging upstairs. They just both got a beer out of the fridge and like stared at him. And I was like damn, like their High School. Like, if your dad was watching like a beers at the fridge after like flocking for an hour, like boy, he's really living the life. I don't like it, but Nate's in a position to decide our power plant out of Cal right now. So why the fuck not? But what a life you get to This fox

33:22 and he's been here for an hour and then have a chilled beer here in town. The I like fuck you bastard, but you're like good. That's that's her trying to look like Maddie. In this scene, is horrible. I'm sorry. Like so cringe. It could not look worse and Cassie. Normally. I'm like, she's looks so banging all the time like in season one, but she looks so bad. It's like sad. I hate this for me. Alex. Like Cassie's, my favorite and I just have to watch her. Like she has fallen for lat. She went

33:52 from, like one of the top characters that everyone liked love to like she literally is the bottom. I read this on complex, article was actually kind of fun. They like they rated like, Euphoria characters, accordingly popularity, like, who's doing the bathroom, like season wanting Cassie was literally the last one. Yeah. I was like, I hate that though. Sorry, sweetie, so Jules and Dominic and we were having some fun though. They're getting some real Shenanigans or It is a

34:23 money. Grab that guy is like it's cat playing a real term or does he just say things like sexual? Hey, what the fuck? Is that real? Yes, people fucking do that. I mean, yeah, like what like should I chose chess or like? Oh, I don't know. I'm not into it out of the fucking details, but there's a lot of poop going around. Yeah. I mean that was funny. Just don't like he's he's

34:53 just a leg degree to like to a degree to like I'm cool. I'm confident. I'm like Goofy and fun. Like yeah, like it's like just here. It's too much. It's not natural. It always feels like he's like doing it all the way. Yeah. He liked the attention. Don't think I like about it or not about him necessarily, but about this like new triangle Dynamic is that we get to see ruined rules. Just like have fought like you said like do normal shit. They play Truth or Dare in the Halls instead of like Like right, Jules

35:23 fucking cow in a motel and like, yeah, all this like, he's shit like it just seems more normal. Yeah, but yeah, fuck Elliot. Once again. Also, I determined that Cassie is just decided to like emulate Hannah Montana, as a hooker. That's what I wrote down. My nose. Okay, hooker Montana, that's an accurate description of her style. Yeah, slutty Dolly, Parton. Yeah. So, yeah. I thought that was funny in the bathroom scene, when they're like calling her. Out because I like it's so accurate.

35:54 But be the fucking funniest thing about that scene is that there's like three like regular girls in the bathroom that are just like watching this happen and then they like run away at the end. Wait, really? Yeah. I never noticed that. It's fucking funny and I was like God, you could make a great show just about the background characters and euphoria that are just living like regular High School lives and then like having run-ins with like the fetal position, complete fucking psychopath, like having like, it's a screaming matches about like slutty. Blues in the bathroom. That was my definitely

36:25 so far in the in all the seasons other than a getting fucked up. That was my favorite scene of like the series so far. I just thought, like, it was very witty, very quick and all each character, something really funny to say bathroom like horny Dolly, Parton. Yeah, just Lexi's like cuz you know, it's just funny cats. Like you don't read the play Oklahoma and then it's like who's like? Well, fuck me. Well how the fuck would I know what? Like Oklahoma is and then it's like cos he's freaking out, Maddie's making fun of Outfit like this is a great like run on of like

36:55 every character being themselves. But in a really funny way, also they feel that was well-written. They Bamboozled Us in the trailer though because they you think that like, she's confessing in that moment. I was like, oh, like film confession thing. Father was going to be a fucking bank bathroom. Throw down which I'm not gonna lie. I was kind of sad that that didn't happen. I was like ready for Maddie to like, fucking throw down. Hmm, but it didn't happen. They fucked us over and it's all fake. So fake. Snooze Cassie doesn't really confess to fucking me.

37:25 Yeah, bullshit. She's too busy. I should get him a really honest about manipulate a manipulative advertising this year. Oh, can I get some clarification? I actually am genuine confused. I didn't look it up because I wanted you to describe it to me. What the fuck is this? So there is a play called Oklahoma and Lexi's like count is like competing with it Paige. I thought you were like a theater nerd. I don't know about fucking Oklahoma. No, I do, but I'm saying she's not doing the play, Oklahoma because her birthday. She's doing her play. I know. But why is Oklahoma even being brought?

37:55 Because that's the main School play. She got permitted. Also do her place, doesn't she know she competing with the other plays? Okay. Yeah. Got it because her signs are like, this is not Oklahoma. Yeah, sure, whatever. Yeah. Because they deal of long. I like every high school every year. They fucking today, really my high school didn't like every year. Wow. Yeah, you should. Are you so much. All this week. I was I could see like watching Oklahoma, but this is a great time to bring up that I have officially identified the the cult

38:26 Grindhouse movie. That Fez and after watching an episode 1 it's a horror movie called Razorback as I suspect called that shit. Someone on Twitter also confirmed this and I have now watch the movie. So it is verified. That ashtray and feds are watching. Razorback 1984. Yep. It's Sickly Wake in Fright with pigs shout-out. @B B, RK D. WN. That's who said confirm that you were correct? And then she also

38:56 said, you're onto something. Hinting at Nate's o Oedipus complex, which I thought was cool. Because a lot of people do like to join you in on the whole me. Yeah. Cal fucking thing. Yeah. He definitely has a lot. So cool. Thank you. So now that the the Razorback mystery has been cleared up. They've presented us with a new mystery, this episode. Yeah, we have Gia Andrew watching some Mutant baby movie. So now I have to figure out what the fuck bad movie is.

39:26 Well, do you have - if you know what it is. I have a suspicion that it's a movie called it's alive. But, as with Razorback, I haven't actually seen that movie. So that's a big TBD. But, yeah, if you know more about obscure, fucking be movie, or like, I do, please tell us, so I don't have to watch it's alive, and it's three. Course. Yeah, now you don't need to watch all those. Well, I mean I secretly want. I secretly love. I want is great. This is great. My like research

39:56 as my kind of shit. I'll make sure I find plan. This is my area of speciality. They did, you know, someone has to do the research for the people. People need to know, I really, like, Kasia Maddie's sunglasses at the pool. That's so random and not relevant to literally anything we're talking about, but I do too. They're good. I want to know what designers those are. I bet I could find them. Pretty easily. Yeah, they're dope. So what else is going on? We gotta the even cat situation. We do importantly really quick though. I have a question for you before that what we got?

40:26 Like, Kate and nasty. Kate and Daisy. Yeah. See some sexy new character. You like you like named Cassie? Wait till you Cheatin a nasty nasty. They're nasty. Oh my God, that's so embarrassing. I'm just kind of fucked up. But so when there are like there's that Montage of them like hooking up, was that like, just like being sexy

40:56 and like, weird an S&M when he was like choking her. Or is that like abuse? No, she seemed pretty into it. Okay. I don't know. I would be hard-pressed to call out of use. I don't tell not abuse, but I was like, fuck is he like choking another bitch or is this like sex? I think I'm is into it. Do you think he's into her still? Oh, I don't know. I mean he's into her enough that he's like carrying this on. He's not into her enough that he imagined him. We're never having like hot sex. That's fucking beautiful. Loo her off to go see Maddie. So I don't think he's that

41:26 has evil intentions. We all know it's just to get that fucking disk. He's not going to fuck her. I don't think he really gives a shit about either of them. I know. But anyways, you're right. Cantonese and a dinner. Got Nathan. Have a bad dinner, which was like that's just blowing. It is completely blowing, a relationship with Ethan. He was so sweet. This whole dinner. He's just like staring off into space because cats being so fucking ready. Yeah, like I didn't think the parents were to, like probing. They just asked her, like, tell us about yourself. It's

41:56 like, yeah, they were definitely like awkward annoying parent, weird. But yeah, it wasn't like so off-putting. I was going to say that is one of the most fucking annoying questions. Like, tell me. That's so crazy. Like I'm like, like what is? It's cool, but it is also sad though because it's like I'm sure we'll get way more of like what she's going through this season. We kind of already are getting a taste. I feel like she's been cheating again all the time and like it's really has like no confidence in herself, which I don't get it because she,

42:26 I don't know. I'm just I'm confused at where she's at because I feel like last season. Sure. She was like, definitely not confident, but I feel like she did a good job of Faking it. Like she kind of had me fooled like she Like fucking guys left and right. Like yeah, I get that. She wasn't happy in. That was sad that she was just kind of like going through that to like try and getting confidence out of like sex and stuff like. Yeah, right. But a nice sweet. Are you like on top of the world right now? I'm confused. I don't know a lot of self-doubt. There's work at a teen

42:57 girl going through a lot of going through. Well, but Ethan strikeout for Oklahoma City. No, we caught the part. We find out who gets the part. All right, which you and I are both during the episode Lily the same time were like God cat. You're being a bitch. Like he tells her and she goes. Oh cool. It's like oh fuck off, even though it's cool be excited for him. Like he's got the lead.

43:27 Actually. I can't picture either being a lead in a play at all. Yeah. He's so quiet like Weird, whatever, he's going to be in Lexi's play. Who's he's gonna be in Lexi's play mate. Oh, that's good. Oh, that's a good question. Cassie's, Dad passed. These deadbeat dad likes, is that I should say. Yeah. So then we got ruse, like, cray, cray, a moment of trying to throw like a LinkedIn business. Look, your room hits hits, the crazy old, teacher drug dealer lady with her whole like

43:57 Steve Jobs is my hero pitch. Yes. Now, tell me I really mean this. I didn't understand a Fucking thing. She was talking about was her idea that so, brilliant. Just terrorizing High School her ideas. She's falsifying. The fact that she's basically saying like, hey me and all my friends are like all these like, you know, high like high-profile bitches that have like great grades are well respected by the community. No one's going to suspect us of shit. So one hand, like no one's going to be suspicious on the second hand. She wants to

44:27 take their phones and upload their shit to the cloud. So that if these people are ever caught I didn't have any impetus to rat anyone out. They'll be more scared of the leaking of their information and their nudes, or tax or whatever, from the cloud then, they will from legal consequences because as miners, whatever happens will be expunged from the record and they'll only have to do it like most like a year in juvie. Okay. So then what the fuck is this plan? What other cohorts issue talking

44:57 about? Or she just she's dying. I think that she's just attempting to get get drugs. She's just desperate. She has no money. I don't know. Because to me, she says what she wants to do much drugs for free, and she has just acquired a massive amount of drugs. I think I want to think, she's not just being so stupid as to not think about the consequences of this at all, but I have a bad feeling, she's just gonna do that entire entire suitcase of drugs without trying to sell them at all. Like, who is ruse market like Fez, is the tribunal, like, who is she gonna sing?

45:28 May be dominant or not? Dominic Elliot. Do you think he'll help her out? Trying to sell ten thousand dollars worth of drugs. Like so it's kind of just like show up. Like this is all bad news. Readers gonna get completely fight over. What are your thoughts on this? Ladies Apartments? So weird, did you notice how only the walls jungle print? She's got like parrots. She has like a fur rug it looks like bizarre. Yeah, of course. I mean This Woman's weird as shit, like so weird sitting in like a Brookstone chair like getting a fucking desert, but she's

45:58 the real deal. She's got naked Elliot Stabler knock off like running around her as a partner. Went with his dick out. I totally forgot. I like, literally took a note of that. Like, why, why do we need that naked, man? Walking through evidence in loves Dick. He just wants a lot of dick on screen. I know, but it's like that one. We don't need, we do not need. Yeah. I mean this lady is the real deal. She really meant it at the end when she was like really like I know bad people make my money back, like she'll fucking human traffic. Real like hands down this route just like smiled. And what about her way to a

46:28 a? It's like what there is out of her fucking mind. She's out of her fucking mind because Then she gets in a little like, Tiff with Ali who's had her back. Yeah, she must be wildly. I mean was willing to him now for she was but it's not surprising because he's just always been an obstacle to her doing more drugs. Like I know but it was only sad because I thought she liked with Gia throat, you know when she gas-lit Gia. I feel like she stooped, just as love with Ali tying in his personal story because because he lent

46:58 her that as like a vulnerable moment of like a teaching moment of Like here, I'm going to open up to I normally don't and she fucking weaponized him with that. Yeah, that was way too cold, hearted. Yeah, he's a cold and I'll leak went off the. Hey, I don't blame him. I would to like, not at all. But like, he like went off and then like stormed off. Like he was talking pissed. Yeah, right then we get does Co ashtray, say they're kicking it. Oh, yeah, I mean

47:28 it's so again, this is a obviously this Just really my favorite because there's just so much cathartic beating of the Jacobs family. I know it's good for us. We got we get Nate. Now we get Calgon bopped on the head with the shotgun file. He's last 13 year old boy. Like it's just fun. Well, I love always like I'll call the cops. He's like call the cops bitch. Do it, do it and call you can tell it was just like, oh, fuck like this gets serious. Yeah, right. He just gets Pizza.

47:58 I think he beat them like five or six times a week. Yeah, this is like telling him to like he's up and what is facing its if I do? Yeah phase like so you and your son like fuck like she's all like fucked up. But yeah, I mean cows probably it is most likable here because he's just fucking confused about why he's in like he's just slowly becoming like aware of the fact that like, he doesn't even need to be involved with these people at all lately. Also laughed so hard.

48:28 That says like what about Jewel and they all keep all your jewelry is like a jewel. Yeah. It's really funny. They just called her duel, the whole scene and part of me wonders. If you like accidentally fucked that up and they kept it in to like keep it in character. Know, it's pretty funny though. It is funny though. But yeah, so I didn't understand. Why do you think I guess I'm confused. Why does Cal think those Co has the dip? What ever made him? Think that's code of the disc.

49:00 Heath isn't this is what does he fight? Because of what they told him, what an eight say that made him think it was kind of a funny just dropped a hint that someone has it. So, in my head, I'm like, well, it's probably Maddie like his girlfriend Nate implied that from what I remember name implied that like Fez was after him was trampling mail em over it and that's not it got in that fight, which is more intimidating than saying Maddie has it because like if Maddie has a cow can just Corner her milk. Give me that fucking desk. Yeah, right, of course.

49:30 And he had to explain the fight. Why the he had to explain? Why Fez wanted to beat the shit out of him and his act like he is implied explanation. Was that he was being blackmailed, got it. Okay. Now I gotta I was a little confused. That's why Kyle, I mean, aside from the fact that they beat the shit out of his son. That's why he's been after them, got it all makes sense. Yeah. Jokes on him because I don't know shit about no, which is hilarious. He's just like, can we just forget about this? It wouldn't have been made after this except me. The tape

50:00 SoCal. Still can't come down on him. But he is the waterlogic. It was struck. I think at least now kind of starting to doubt Dawn on Cal how fucked up an evil Natives and that he's like playing his whole own like yeah, you know, yeah, I mean we got after this meeting. He saw the Fez is like kind of a reasonable guy and I think he came away from this being like there's a reason this guy beat the shit out of my son. Yes, and because we learned about Paul's background, like you Did you have

50:30 like empathy Farms that? I like? I think you're learning. Like you said that this isn't just about like, Nate having a bad dad. Like in season 1 member. I was like, trying to find reasons to like empathize with me and I was like, well, is that fucking sucks? Like will count, does suck, but like he's not pure evil. He's just clearly fucked up from like his back, but I guess I guess that doesn't matter that's like an excuse but like, you know what I mean, though, he's all like, I don't know. I'm like, confused with Michael. Doesn't seem like evil. No, I agree. I don't think he's

51:00 gotta know. Mike, is he really that bad as that or did we just see some bad moment. I felt season one bad like bone, like like Nate does. I don't think he has that. Like, even yeah, thing going on. I think he's probably mostly responsible for all fucked up. Nate is though totally. But I don't think they're on the same level. Okay, and it's got a different psycho shit going on. I really liked all of us Jules outfits in this episode. A lot, shouldn't good. But anyways, she's, you know, chilling with Elliot. I hate this city. He really

51:30 fucks with her. We kind of already talked a lot about this. So I won't go like too deep into it. The only thing I want to ask you those like a prediction to have on the air. Do you think at all and season 2 Elliott will hook up with either Road Rules? Yes, who do you think it'll be? It's too early to say, you think. Joel seem same. Yeah. I think we won't care. She's doing her own thing. She's like selling drugs. She's figured like, she's almost like, in her own world. She does not seem interested in Elliott at all, other than, like, drugs. Yeah,

52:00 I agree. I think. Cruz is like drugs, drugs drugs. She's not like into Ellie. Yeah, I agree. I really Jules is gonna, you know, once again distance from Rue because of his addiction. Yeah. And also because Elliot's gonna fucking manipulate that shit. Okay. Well you heard it here first. We think Jules is gonna hook up with Elliot. I don't like it, but I'm just saying, no. All right, cool. What else is going on? Anything else? I mean, the episode will the episode ends with a huge like, not twist, but it is kind of unexpected. Sit. Cassie's waiting for me.

52:30 He ends up at Maddie's. That's where we had. I know. You're like, yeah, but I was actually kind of surprised. I didn't think he was gonna go back to my ugh. He's got to get the disc. He can only play his dad for so long. If he doesn't actually have the disc and a, this is fucked up. I said those two, we're watching it and know it's fucked up. But I like my heart kind of looks like got excited when he went to Maddie because I was like, as much as I love Maddie. I stand her. I know because I'm like, I like it or not. He is in life, but I'm also occur in nature just like, have his like, I do. Want them together

53:00 at all the worst history, but I love cats, you so much that I'm like, I just want to be with anyone because he doesn't leave her, and break her heart. Fuck Maddie's that. She's doesn't like you anymore. Whatever. I don't want, Kazmir throwing whatever character. I want her to. Like, come up. I want to be a phoenix arises from the actual. Wow. I don't want her to be with me. I hate it. I hate nasty, Massey. Massey hate kale. Caden,

53:30 a see the world. Okay. Well, that is the end of the recap. So I feel like we should just spit ball our superlatives. Yeah, so we have like we recognize that we're blessed to have so many new listeners loves them. Yeah. I don't fucking say that, I don't believe in that. So I said, but those are drunk on my cheaper to. Yeah, seven drink. No, we are fucking lucky to have new listeners martinis. We're very lucky to have many new listeners, this season is so I realized that we were remiss to not Spleen

54:00 the superlatives category probably have done throughout season 1 which is just us. Choosing like, you know, the classic like high school. Yearbook bullshit categories. Yep. We just select some of those and go through them every episode as a way to kind of recap like minor highlights. It's kind of a fun place to call out some of the other aspects of the show like the music as we always do best song. So for those that are new to this, the categories are Best Rest were stressed. Bae

54:30 who's like, you know, the best who they have they have to say the episode the weird outlier here is, the BPD are be the big purple dirty rat, bastard. I genuinely don't even remember the origins for that category. What it's just, you know, who's the fucking worse? It has some relation to that skate shop here called like, yeah yelling. Hello rabbit, or something in New York and we did a purple for you, for you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're right. Yeah. Like that's also so

55:00 stupid. So it's not like it makes any sense. Even after describing it. I'm like, why do we have this know? It's insane and stupid but it's just you know, who's the fucking worst? And then a Class Clown, who's the funniest and then the song? Yeah, best song. Okay. So number one, best dressed, who was your choice? This episode. It was a really weird one for me. I don't know if I've ever listed this person before but it was Maddie for me for the, the swimsuit. Sunglasses combo out by the pool. Yeah, the sunglasses are cool. They looked like swim. Oils would wear.

55:31 Kind of a good like 90s would be so Vibe, swimsuit worked. I think yeah and Maddie's characters overall involving a little bit. So I do. I think like her outfits are less like insane, you know, I don't know about that. But I like I said Jules I all jewels have like really cool layers and like you could tell she had a lot of like her own shit, like Hunter Schafer shit, just like a lot of like Indie designers. You could tell it was not all like, you know, Maddie you can Always so oof and then

56:01 she's kind of like more chicken never go wrong with jewels. She always looks amazing, but that was mine. Yeah. Okay. Cool. We're stressed Cassie. Yeah, Cassie off. Ya see, is Hannah Montana hooker. I had ever sent. Nothing. Looks like a righteous gemstones. Cursed. She looks so bad. Her hair is awful. Everything's bad. Yeah. Just really horrible, which sucks cause usually she looks just horrible great, but now Baby episode for me. It was Lexie, love her. Love her

56:31 like real life. Play like we're seeing some real like artiste Vibes here. Yeah, Cinema verite shits going from Observer to like calling fucking shit out. She's yeah, a lot of high like this, like this turn for her and these if there is anyone that needs calling out its these people. Absolutely. I said ashtray for fucking up. Can't you're right. You're right. I can't. I think that's probably the know that's cute that you thought. Alexia. Yeah, but there's a straight

57:01 fucking up Cal. The shotgun is they're both Bears dirty purple, too. What is it? Yeah, I had real say is for how awful she was everything. I thought I thought me and then I'm like no we using it. Like every fucking week is May just sucks all around but also they re actually did some deeper more like emotional shit to people. Oh, yeah, like you don't fuck with Gia if you don't. Fuck with Ali. Yeah, Green horrible,

57:31 Class Clown. I said, you know, that weird little boy, the but Maddie babies po. You just get to hang out with like two hot bitches on hottest girls interested for Theo's character Arc. Yeah. I can't wait. I do think I'll have enough waiting for the Theo box or E-class all reviews, Maddie just for her one-liner of being liked. Are you joking or what is this thing? Are you kidding me? Much like, when Cassie's like, do I really look like the girl from Oklahoma?

58:02 The good way, or a bad way. She's like, you better be joking bitch. Yeah. Because I just thought that was hilarious, because, like, that is just so honest and like brutal about it. So I thought that was funny. Favorite song for me. It was a she sells Sanctuary by the cold. That was one of my early leg weed smoking days like hits. Like that was more like he's one of the ones that was in, like, heavy rotation that we listen to like every time we got high. Yeah, and it's a great fucking song.

58:32 Well, I'll have to listen to the highwomen there. Um, I had a lot, I three, but I narrowed it down to one. I liked the last song with that entitles if which is originally Dean Martin, but it was covered by Jo Stafford, and it's a 1951 archive cover. Whoo-hoo, which is cool. I know I did a deep cut there because it actually the reason I like, I wasn't even trying to be like cool and smart. It's because I had to look like really deep for it. I couldn't find it. It wasn't listed as like the soundtrack

59:03 of euphoria, the call the Articles like didn't put that one for some reason. So I knew it was Dean. Martin song. I just was like, but I thought it was Judy Garland because it sounds like that. Look at you doing research that I did my In research and its archive 1951. I also liked emotions by Brenda Lee because I just love Brenda Lee. She wraps and then Call Me. Irresponsible is like a classic, so I had to put that, but yeah, all right. Nice choices. Yeah, for an episode that also like doesn't have

59:33 the the classic song title. It still has the very much like, you know, Rock theme and that led me into a thing. I'm going to mention here real quick, which I don't we tie saw that says Euphoria is a show that asks what America would be like in 2022. Two, if it's still had 70 style Mass affluence and social freedoms. Interesting. And I really felt that because when I really thought about it, I was like, Euphoria is like

1:00:04 the 70s 20:22 like it's completely like Fantastical. This is not how it is. Yeah, but if the if that like Trend, if things have continued as they were and we were in kind of like this like weird psychedelic, like half dark half a light, like, era it would look a lot like Euphoria at this time and I think the soundtrack the season, really reflects that totally drawing the connection between this two time. Periods is very like half like golden age and a half

1:00:34 like so fucked up and awful and dark. Yeah. I never thought of it that way. Yeah, kind of like the Woodstock like by times where it's like good idea on paper but like bad free sex, lots of dead bugs like, you know that whole but disastrous when it all comes crumbling down like your parents were Telling us her, I forgot who I think it was. Your parents were like, that was a shit show. Like everyone always likes to like, glamorize like Woodstock, but I heard it was like, it was a fucking disaster. It was a disaster. Yeah, but that's what I'm thinking of, as you say that

1:01:04 like, yeah, I mean the the the golden like hippie dream of the 60s melted into, like the lake Punk, dystopia, the late 70s. When there were serial killers, running rampant, awfully acid, cool, so you for is going and really good positive ways. Some but I thought that was actually a pretty accurate like her. There is a nation of euphoria, like, a general like time period piece, especially, since you for your kind of takes place in an alternate universe. Anyways, I was like, yeah. No, that's a good

1:01:34 point to bring up. Also, on that note. I, I told you today, I was like, venting, but I feel like everyone. I'm hearing so far that are, like, newcomers to Euphoria other meeting. I can tell their new like, they're not like Diehard Euphoria fans noobs. I'd rather just coming through other. So there's a quick to just like label. Euphoria is like, I'm trying to watching it, but like they just do like so many drugs. And when I was in high school, I called you about was we didn't like that just doesn't make any sense and it's like, I just feel like

1:02:04 no one's getting it. Like a lot of these like, Gabby people criticizing you for you, or just even have something to bring to the table. It's always very, like Petty and pouring, which I feel like we do a good job, like deep diving and like understanding, like, well like this. Have you not seen an R-rated movie in your life like yeah, sometimes the show you watch has drugs. It's lame to say hi. Like high school, doesn't equal drugs. Like I'm sorry, but where I grew up like, fuck out. There were drugs everywhere in my school. Like I'm not saying every High School. Looks like Euphoria like that'd

1:02:34 be crazy. Like we always say, ya fantasy world. It's not supposed to be like literal. Yeah. So what I'm saying is I think unfortunately a lot of like the critics are missing the mark but it's man. It's like I mean we've talked about this before but I went to like a very affluent like white Suburban like high school and there were still kids selling like, you know, like it. My bus and yeah if they're really like, you know, a lot of overdoses in my town like yeah, it's not like, it's not like it's so far off reality in the drugs aspect. I mean high schoolers

1:03:04 have been using drugs, like fucking crazy for basically, like all the time. At least since like the 60s. And if anything, like the reality is that drug use has dropped off among high schoolers like hardcore in the last like 10 to 15 years. Yeah. So all this shows doing is like showing like what high school like I do. Medically is like I also guess my point on that too, though. Should be like honestly people I thought though also just have no depth. Look. I'm sorry if you watch the show and that's all you got other, that's like pretty lame. Like there's just

1:03:34 I feel like the first time I ever watched you for you with no. Like, we have a podcast. Listen to. We didn't have multiple Vogue articles and all this shit. Like I just had to kind of like figure it out on my own, which I'm sure all of our listeners can relate because they're all super fans but like well, Euphoria is gonzo and style, but it's not superficial it. Real day. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying? That's all you got on beneath the surface like yeah, even though it's like aggressively like, you know, your box dicks and

1:04:04 butts and drugs and stuff. Yeah, but I think that's like fun. Yeah, it's all very surface level, the rest of the shows like quite deep and yeah, beyond that. So if that's all you like, read from Euphoria, it's like you're really just not paying attention. Yeah, and Sam is so detailed not to. I know we got to wrap it up soon. But like he talked about how him and me. Marcel the cinematographer dude. How they like, the whole reason, they even thought of Cal's backstory, even being involved in the episodes at all was just purely based off. A night of them hanging out, listening to 90's

1:04:34 music and like how their love for, like, they're like in-depth, love for music, which shows all throughout Euphoria. We've always said like the music ties in like rhythmically, so. Well, he literally said that's what sparked the story of Cal like, that was never supposed to be like a thing. So once again just like pointing To like things like that that you and I like catch and like research and like, get super, like nerdy about and other. People are just so quick to let dismissed TV shows for like the dumbest reasons. Like there's too many drugs like

1:05:05 you're like, 35 like that. Anyways, on that day many ways. I feel like we should dive into our new segment. Yeah, you want to lead us in or should I? Um, I feel like I guess I will. I don't know. Shy. Like describe it again. We did last week, but I'm happy to To I was when I decided to do a segment where it's called change our minds bitch and I just feel like so many of our listeners have some of the best opinions and like, predictions contradictions to what we talked about

1:05:36 and we just kind of want like officers of five of us a bit like that Alice. But like in a fun way like call us out when we just fuck up and like maybe we said something on the episodes, not accurate or maybe they disagree. I think the Lexi Fez thing was a big wake up. Wake up, call for us. Yeah, we we think we're so like aw. Multiple people predicting that like between seasons 1 and 2 and really clowned on that. So, you know, we've we've come back down to earth. Yeah, we're a little more humble this season. A little words really channeling. The Humble

1:06:06 Vibes this season. Yeah, we got the experts. We thought we were I feel like sometimes we're totally wrong on stuff. So I want to know, hey, there's only one way to live life, which is 100% sure that you're right about everything all the time. That's you Alex. I was not me. Obviously. I don't give a shit since I thought ruin that. A nation was a word so I'm obviously not too concerned with how high like research thing. But anyways, we're wrong all the time. So we have now changed our minds, bitch, where you should write it and tell us what were wrong about and

1:06:36 why don't be shy. Please do like, we want to hear it. People are scared those. I won't really look like someone wrote in like, I can't go up against you guys. And it's like, I like them. Like they're joking. They were joking, but I also like the people feel that way, because that's very mean, Alex. Were you just have to Oh, from listen to us, were very like aggressive people. We have very like, strong opinions, but that doesn't mean we're always right? You were fucking wrong. So, I call this out, but I'm frequently wrong. So, yes, so here's the new segment.

1:07:06 Yeah, so we got in regards to last week's episode. What were we wrong about it? Yes. So also very, very quickly just to remind you to submit, you can always submit through our diems on our instapass will post weekly. Whenever we do this. Eggman. But also on the actual episode itself on Spotify. There's a Q&A section where you can quickly just jot down a quick little blurb if you will. So I picked I, there were so many submitted their really where, but

1:07:36 I picked like three or four that I'm going to break down for you, Alex and Alex doesn't hurt any of these hit me. So episode 2 was the best episode of the Season, maybe even the series 100 Versa debunk, false fake news. Don't buy that take for a second. I know. But that is something someone submitted. They wanted to be anonymous. So I won't say their Handler but I mean to not be rude. It was weak like both in like a like the mattock

1:08:06 like plot. Yeah. Structural situation and also in terms of leg, nothing interesting about the show happening. I thought it was the biggest struggle. It was a struggle bus like a struggle. Yeah, Rock Down Season 2 is like a mess of like plotting. It was all over the moon s. It was difficult. Uncle to follow it. Didn't let it was just was not cohesive. There was transitions from. Yeah, that's not just us. We've had friends agree. So yeah, sorry wrong also bold to say maybe even of the series like come on

1:08:37 I'm sorry Season. What is strong? Like strong so episode 2 is a total throw away. Okay. This is coming from ridiculous. It's spelled kind of weird, but on Instagram, they said I have to live in a Euphoria Echo chamber, with all the bad takes recently. So I only listen to you all because I'm most mostly always agree. That cute. Okay, thanks, but I've never been fully convinced that Nate is,

1:09:07 oh my God, I can't read it. I can--and canonical economically gay since we've only seen him interested in CIS and trans women. I think the dick pics on his phone were to send to Jules question. Mark, he was on Grindr in the first place there. So was this just like the intent to find Jules. In other words, you and I did last episode were joking around about all the dick pics. Yeah, I they're just persons point is like, I think that was literally just like the plot to get Jules. Well,

1:09:38 I think there the amount of dick pics is a little suspicious because you can't send like 40 div 40 different dicks. Yeah. Yeah. I can buy that. It was all plot of part of a plot to get Jules. I certainly don't think he's In terms of him being gay. I don't know. I think it's worth remembering the scene from season 1 when he's in the locker room and everyone's naked and he's wildly uncomfortable. It does not feel it. Don't say that to say that, like, that's like totally normal or whatever. I'm

1:10:08 the type of guy that's not super, like down to just like we predict out there like laughing a room with a bunch of other dudes, but the way he's experiencing that his internal monologue of the time leads me to think there's a little bit of gayness going on, but this is a This is a solid take like yeah. Yeah, I could Nate sexuality is still up in the air and other words also, like Loki will let you listen as you agree with us. That's so nice. Thank you for writing in. Yeah. So our Cohen 948 says I think that

1:10:38 ashtray is going to die at the end and Fez is going to go Bonkers and we're going to see a different side of him, which is calling me off because I predicted that Fez would die. Yeah, interesting. So they're bringing another which I think is valid. I think that absolutely. Could Happen. Meaning, I'm not going to like say yes or no, because I told you, I just have a feeling someone's going to die to season, I don't know how to explain it. So now I'm kind of like, are Cohen. Like, you've convinced me like ashtray, going at the end would be like, really? Like, I don't know if I see it being a stray, but I think

1:11:08 that this season is kind of like the Anything Can Happen season where we're not going to see what's coming. Yeah, so I don't have any problems with this. I think it's pretty wide open right now in terms of like what's gonna happen. So I'm fine with that. Take Ya Back. A definitely happen, crazy. The only event of the last one is just funny. I just threw it in for shits and giggles. We got like multiple people riding in but this is just one of like 15 people that wrote in and said re Elliot re.

1:11:39 Well I'm saying we like re like you don't ever say that they say re let's say I really like be. Oh my God. Tonight is on tonight. Everyone's gonna think I'm dumb as rocks all for me. This is really like I swear I have an Actually like it speak. Okay, Ari. Elliot the person he's smoking within his house in episode 2 is credited as his cousin, not his mom. So everyone was like freaking out and calling us out because we were like Elliot was mom are like weird. Apparently. That's his cos ya. No fair.

1:12:09 That's an oversight on our part. We strive to be attentive to detail. And yeah, we're I failed to review the credits on that app as episode as I usually do. So good call out. It's not as Mom, it's his Cousin, which makes more sense. Because member, I was like his mom looks young. Yeah, good point. And, well, that's a while. We're on that subject. The only noteworthy credits from this episode. I would say, are we have someone credited as the Meathead jock? And someone credited just as hot

1:12:39 girl, which are both pretty amusing. Are you Earl? I don't know if anyone here listening. Remember season 1, but season one has some amazing like, credits. Like, just really like, vague, weird credits like that. We used to call out and I'll start doing that again because they do they do a pretty good job being like comedic about the way they described extras for sure. Man, yeah. Well, those are good to anyone change your mind, call me Paul,

1:13:10 you change people's mind, and he's vocalizing. That. Did anyone like change your mind. I feel like we just more got called out which I was what I want. I want people to call us out. Yeah. I don't know. The ashtray take is interesting. I don't know that I like a hundred percent agree, but I don't disagree because yeah, it's not one of those wild period gonna see it coming but that's a good. That's a good theory. I hadn't thought about before he's getting a lot more character development. This So definitely heard if we lost ashtray for sure. Okay. Well that wraps up this episode. I really want to highly encourage

1:13:40 Alex and I would love to see more of you submit to the change your mind, Bitch. Don't be scared. I literally got a couple people riding in being like, it was really be mad at us for what I think. We don't give a fuck, like we say a lot of stupid shit on here. Please submit your thoughts. We love nothing more than good conversation. So yes, agreed. Just the more that like the more the better. I don't even care if they're like, super. Fucking weird. If anything, that Kelly makes it really, I'll take your shittiest. Take, give me your weakest, close, take,

1:14:10 I'll take it. Like, I'm literally, I still want to hear you say it. I think it like makes the show, so please do not hesitate. I always like touching on the the fringes of the, the fandom, for sure. And then I don't know. Other than that. I'm excited for episode 4. This was a strong episode. I'm stoked. Can't wait for next week to chat it up. Can't wait for a little smarter. Next. Of like a stupid as fuck on this episode of that. I don't know what it is. Plus imagination equals. Okay, room in there.

1:14:40 Okay. Sorry, some of us have a nine-to-five jobs and then half the podcast. Like that was evil. I have that. Yeah, but like my hat. My thoughts are jumbled. That's are jumbled. We were drinking martinis and shit. What am I supposed to thank your, dude. A see. What was it? Let's make that go viral. And The I said, NASA. Can you said Kate and nasty

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