Episode 4 - Spillin’ Chili and Gettin’ Silly Transcript

00:00 Hello, you for Ian's picture, this the leaves are rustling, school is back in action, and drama is in the cool Breezy are of Southern California. What could be more euphoric? That a back to school carnival full of drugs, sex and Scandal. Listen up bitches to get the most in-depth. Look at euphoria's. Most aesthetically Beautiful episode to date. Grab your cotton candy and hold on tight because we are about to embark on a Journey

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01:08 Hello you for Ian's, it's me Paige. And I'm back here with my boyfriend. Alex. How's it going? Alex? What it is Page. Well, we are officially on day 31 of quarantine, in New York City, which is insane. And when I say we, I literally only mean me and Alex, like, we've been very good citizens. We have stayed indoors. If not left unless we needed to get groceries, which is about. What would you say two to three times since we've been in quarantine? Yeah, we're on like a like once every two weeks

01:39 once it's crazy type type routine. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. But like I'm really proud of us, but it's been. It hasn't been easy. But like it's been easy having our fans out there which are so supportive and so cute. Oh, yeah. I definitely want to start the episode out before we you know, do our usual routine. I do want to shout out to a lot of our followers on Instagram, Twitter, wherever you may be Facebook, you all have been so sweet. So amazing, your DMs have just been like the cutest things ever. Alex and I are so

02:09 excited. We're definitely, we don't care about my followers. We have, we definitely did this out of passion. So any messages you send our way are just like so appreciate it. So I had to start off by saying that. Yeah. And like, shout out to her International followers, like, shout out to Bosnia and Herzegovina leg. Shout out to Italy, shout out:, shout out, Poland late. Book. This goes on. We're like, we got listeners all over the place and we feel like super lucky that you guys for some reason give a shit about us and listen to her. Listen or scilly Isles

02:39 podcast. Yeah, and I know like we all share the same love which is Euphoria. But like we like Alice already said, we're just so thankful. So thank you all for listening. We really appreciate it. But anyways also on that kind of like more somber note or happy kind of somber, that's weird to say it but Labyrinth this week on his in So Stories, Came up and also never like dying's. We found out that he has coronavirus. And so does this whole family? Yeah, are you for you up day of the week is not a great one. Or boy. Labyrinth

03:09 is laid up with the coronavirus, which is crazy, all the best. It's crazy. But it also shows that people in Allah, if any of you are listeners from l.a., Like, it doesn't matter where you live. It doesn't matter what country and right now, like, everyone just needs to be safe and stay home. Like stay at the fuck home. I mean, there's a lot you can do from home. You can start a park podcast. You can get drunk and you can watch it for yet. There's three things. I already named perfect. But really, our warmest wishes, kuato, Labyrinth, obviously,

03:39 because he's a part of our Euphoria families. So sad. He's been quarantining to. So it just goes to show doesn't matter. Like the virus is going around happens, but he said it's awful. Like, he literally on his insert. It was like it's fucking awful. Like we've all had the worst of symptoms. So Labyrinth, we love you. Our warmest wishes. I hope you're all feeling better. It seems like he felt better on his in the story. So let's hope the best for his family. Then moving on. We also want to do a quick shout out speaking of our amazing followers

04:10 Miranda who's at. I'm gonna butcher the the fuck out of this, but it's at me Irma rare. Oh, mira mira. Mira, mira, Romero, I think it's your mom. Arrow is how it's spelled. Yeah, but shout out to you Miranda. She actually deemed us. Yes, he hit us up in episode 3. We were wondering what shows cat was. Watching when she was dreaming about her ideal romances. And there was one, we didn't know and it wasn't in the credits and she hit us up and said it was true blood. So any of, you know, if you want to know about cats like

04:40 deep history of romantic fantasies. Yeah, is in the TRU blood. So it's Gilmore Girls True, Blood and Scandals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, those are 3 plus 4 plus 1 D and One Direction. And what was the other of this? Like Once Upon a Time the one with Captain Hook? Yeah, Emma and Hook. Yeah, wow, but yeah, thank you Miranda. That was really sweet. I mean, I love that. That means people are really listening and we just once again, so, appreciate it. So also another quick shout out before we

05:10 go into the episode. We actually got to speak with the algae Smith. And we did. Yeah, for those of you who are newcomers or just starting to watch you for you in our listening. I'll do Smith who plays Christopher machaon. You Chris. Is it Christopher or Chris Christopher? He's a murderer, has the phone McKay. Anyways, so, yeah, we slid into Chris's Christmas. I get them all mixed up. I'm gonna, I actually joked with Alex before we got on the call. I was like, do you

05:40 think it'd be weird if I called him a cake? Because I, I like to call characters by their names. I know that's like psychotic, but like, I have to go off topic. Really quick when I met, I met General Radcliffe when I was in high school and at that for me was like, whoo, I mean, Alex, come on, would you not die if he met Harry Potter? Oh, you don't care either. Okay, I mean I love the movies and I like Daniel Radcliffe and you want to care I wouldn't like you wouldn't want to capture with Harry Potter. I don't know. I mean, I guess that's like you would have at the time, it was such a big deal. I mean,

06:10 I love like, I don't I don't care about the celebrity. There's like very few celebrities like care about and the ones I do care about like, I'm passionate about, but like, I would be stoked to meet him. He's a great actor. I like his work. You know, I just thought of this own, I have to say it. So, when I was young, Alex already knows the story. I have pictures. Maybe I'll plug him. I'm just now thinking This is definitely off our script, but I'm entering a rock cliff. When I was like, I want to say, like a sophomore in high school and I literally, before going into

06:41 it. I told my friend, when I meet him, I, I feel like I'm gonna call him Harry Potter, and I hope he doesn't care because like, I don't really care about Daniel Radcliffe. I care about Harry Potter not to you plead, you call him Harry. No, so I was about to and, you know, he said my friend interrupted me before, I could even like other Awards. I was so Starstruck. I literally could barely speak. I mean, at the time, This was like meeting like my biggest Idol which is tenrec so embarrassing but it was so not. He was really short which is I'm really tall. So it's not against him. But like for me it was a really

07:11 like weird moment. I know whatever he would know. He was so cute. So humble, so sweet. But anyways, long story short. I meet him, my friend was like, what's the most annoying thing that you think about fans? And he said when fans call me Harry Potter, it could not be more annoying because that's not my name. Like I'm a human. This is like my real name, which is Daniel. Inside. I just crumbled because I was like, wait, no, no, no, no, like I was gonna call you in to this whole time. I was like planning on calling him Harry. Making it cute. Like, do you care? If I call you Harry and he literally

07:41 ran off the bat was like I fucking hate when people call me Harry Potter. Like, that's not my name. Like, don't call me Harry Potter and I was like, so anyways, that was really off topic, but I wanted to call algae Smith, McKay I didn't. But anyways, we had a great talk with him, but I'm not even going to go into it because apps and I decided to start a YouTube channel. Alex, what's our little handle? Yeah. Yeah. We gotta YouTube channel, our channels called that. So euphoric, if you want a longer, if you want to listen to our podcast anywhere, other than all the other random places like Spotify and stuff.

08:11 You can catch our episodes on YouTube, but we're also going to throw up the the footage of pages convo with algae on their algae smooth. Well, drop some new music this weekend. Probably some other random stuff. Yeah, he'd rather you dropped a new single. I don't know what it's like, peace of mind. I think ya know, push me away. Listen me away. But then he also dropped peace of mind. The other man, peace of mind. Yes to all women matter all girls, matter matter all girls hotter. They all matter, his previous

08:42 song, previous head, all girls matter. But yeah, so long that I don't know what else to say. Other than algae Smith is a gem and I do want to redeem myself. I'm last episode. I talked a lot of shit. I don't take it back. Like I still think during his live during quarantine. He was being a little stupid. But like, you know, what after talking to him. I've fully Stan algae Smith. He was such a sweet guy. He was really funny and just like very genuine and he clearly cares about his fans. So, you know what I'm here for allergies myth. And you know what? He's right, I'll girls matter. So

09:12 stay tuned. We are going to post our Vlog very soon. We will absolutely plug the shit out of it. So we're not going to give you any of the tea. You'll just have to watch our Vlog. So without further Ado, let's get into it. So episode 4 titled Shook Ones. Part 2 Which continues a trend of naming these episodes after hip hop songs, but it kind of this kind of like some inconsistency here. Yeah. I don't know how I'm feeling about the naming structure of the episodes.

09:42 Booth wouldn't even use the song, right? Well, so they start with Stuntin Like My Daddy, which they do use, but then last week was Nas made you look which they did not use. And then this week is Trick Ones, Part 2, which they also don't use in the episode. They didn't use made. You look no. Okay. So I feel like that's kind of like a half-baked. Kept a little bit. But if I do that cats, listen to it in her. No, that's X gon give it to you. You got it. Okay. Yeah, so I feel like, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about this naming structure given her this kind of half-baked. And then also, they drop it a few

10:12 episodes later when they have to the they had named the episode like how to know. That's a song to my God. That's crazy and Beyonce come on, they carry it for like one or two more episodes after this, but then we get to like how to pee when you're fucking depressed or whatever and that breaks the that should be a song but it's not. So they don't really carry it through the whole season and then sometimes they use the songs and sometimes they don't. So I'm not sure how I feel about this. I like the idea of it, but I don't know that they nailed the execution. Totally agree. But anyways, Shook Ones Part 2 is a great song

10:42 and then this episode opens straight with jewels past her up. And this also kind of breaks my, my theory about every episode starting with through having some kind of, like, framing device, for how she knows about what she narrates in the opening sequence. Yeah, like she's psychic or she's dreaming or whatever. But in this one, it goes straight to Jules and we have no, like possible reference for why runo's this. So my theories of know, it was a really good theory though, and I carried out three episodes. So

11:12 it's not like it's, it was a fun ride while it lasted. But, anyways, we get into jewel story and wow. Wow, fuck her mom. That's like what we say over and over again, or at least what I wrote down. Like five times when we took notes. Yes, it just doesn't make any sense. I mean, I understand that. Maybe there's some people out there that are Stupid and closed-minded and like, don't know how to like not be selfish and care about their kids crazy, but it's not that hard, but I don't even understand. Like the levels. She goes to Julie. Mom is just inches away. It's so sudden that

11:42 she's a psychopath murderer. It's like she's just transitioning. What's the big fucking deal? I mean, welcome to 2020 bitch. Like I know I think that the impetus for putting her there was more related to her like self-harm, but she didn't. Yeah. Got it. I thought it. I that's funny. We haven't talked about this. I thought it was definitely because she was like, wanting to transition. I thought her mom was just like, I don't want to deal with this. Like, well, it's just even better this place. Yeah, even though that even though, that place is very shitty. It's not

12:12 like I like, yeah, it's not a religious like totally propaganda. Like, don't be gay type center. It's just some kind of your run-of-the-mill psych ward where they would not treat you for, like, having issues with like transitioning between your right is so we both were a little confused. We both have first were very much. Like, wait. Is this an insane asylum? Like, what the fuck is this place? Because it's, yeah, we know the timeline and we're like this seems really strange. I feel like you have to, like, do something really awful to go somewhere like this. But yeah, they eventually

12:43 confirmed that it is a psych ward and then like we looked it up and in if this was in California where the rest of the show takes place, I think she was only there for 72 hours. Because in California, you can only like involuntarily commit, someone. Including a minor for a maximum of 72 hours saying is they like, alright, they represent like an imminent harm to themselves know, without a trial, without a court order. That's a whole other thing. But I don't think Jules did anything that could have gotten her

13:13 court order for trial. I'm saying maybe it was a trial, if they're like, let's test this out. See if she's, you know, has the symptoms of needing to be here or whatever. Like yeah. I mean, you can only do it if someone represents like an imminent harm. So like an imminent threat of harm to themselves or others, so I'm assuming They committed her under like, representing a threat to herself, got it, but those feelings only last for 72 hours. So presumably, her dad gets her out at the 72 hours or that's great. Yeah. Okay, so see where she's hugging or David makes sense because it

13:43 doesn't really They Don't Really treat it like, oh she's been there for months. It's very like short-term. You're right. So hopefully for her it was only 72 hours. If not longer that redeems. The question that we both had which is why the fucktard of up is happen and that makes a lot of sense. Because of her mom did like an Impulse bullshit move. Of then her dad probably was like, I need to get her out. Got around 72 hours. Praise be. Yeah. Good. Just that. But yeah, what a fucking place, man. There's the, the big the big rapey boy is what I wrote down. I don't like him. The guy that is Jackie. I mean,

14:13 who likes that guy? I'm not. I'm just saying, I don't like that part of the episode. It makes me cringe, which is like, there's so many parts of the episode. A lot of people are uncomfortable with, and for some reason that one, I'm just, like, do we even need this part? Like, yeah. I don't know. I don't find it too, excessive, and that that's the type of stuff that Are liable to encounter in a psych ward like the guys. But like it also just Travis e is like tiny dick could get more with the more with the jacking of the tiny dicks, but the diaper but like I mean, yeah it I guess they do a good

14:43 job of showing the stark contrast of like Jewels obviously like isn't on the same level as some of these people that are like suffering in this. Yeah, and plus it's probably a good shorthand for like, oh my God, like they need, they don't spend that much time in the psych ward. So they need to give you something to be like, holy shit. This place is fucked. Like, yeah, so Is a very quick easy way to like illustrate how fuck this place is here. So, right. But, like, you know, I just think. Yeah, these guys but yeah, I mean Jewels somehow has a great sense of humor about being there. She's like laughing about. She's like, maybe these mitts will help

15:13 like, when they have the, yeah, it's strapped to her. And so she's still really cute. She has such a good personality even as a youngster, totally. But we also love the doctor that helps her out. I mean, he's really stupid for leaving her with that. Ginger ale can, who would have? Thought? I mean, I can't say, I, I think my kid would like or whatever a kid. I was treating with use that as like a knife, but you have to take every precaution and if you work in a psych ward like you should know this shit. Yeah, I mean they're trained. They know the truth. /. I don't hold it against him because he's a nice guy. No, will always be nice. I think he was

15:43 like, this kid doesn't belong here. Imma treat her different, and then he was like, fuck. Yeah, but I wrote obviously, I'm sorry. I talked about this a little before we recorded how I thought it was just like so sad, obviously to Hear her talk about, I shouldn't like how her like brain work, how she looked, I mean, hearing any child, or adult say that is awful. But that part was very triggering for me. Alice knows like I have a shit ton of anxiety. I've had lots of fucking shit

16:13 in my life. So hearing like a little kid like that just like talk about that shit is so triggering. Like I can't even imagine being her dad. It was just really sad. So I guess like main point being like Jewels. No wonder we like pick her to be Bay of almost every episode like she truly like Did go through a lot of bullshit and like is such a badass and it's okay, like she's confident. She has other things but like she's a great kid. She's just a great. Yeah, and she ends up one of the most like put together like mature. Got her shit

16:43 together characters on the show. Yeah. And given her background like damn good her confidence doesn't feel phony. It doesn't feel insecure. It's very like know. She tried that shit. Yeah, big time. So yeah, and then I also wrote. I mean, I just think she's beautiful like her too. Transition is like on point like she's just a beautiful girl. I'm just like Jules is like a star. Yeah, she gets out of the psych ward and a few years later. She starts slutting it up. Yeah birds and like good for her Crews words, I guess and Hunter who plays her

17:14 has the weirdest sex scenes by the way. Yeah. She definitely gets like probably the weirdest sex scenes in the show weird because, like, cat has to do encounter weird stuff that she doesn't really like partake in the weird sex scenes for the most part but hunter has to take place like be a Part of like some pretty awkward weird sex scenes because she they do this whole sequence where she's like, banging all these dudes who are allegedly 100% straight. Yeah, right my ass, but

17:44 also it's funny because she's very like cool, calm and collected when she's like, she's just like I don't care. Like I'm just here to fuck. Yeah. She the top about your life. Whatever dude. I know you just want to be J. So like let's get on with it. Yeah, and you were saying to that I just shows how many dudes nowadays like just are so lame and like I guess. Yeah, lame, they just like our show afraid to, like, talk about their sexual orientation. I mean, all these dudes are two cares. Clear out of it. Clearly uncomfortable with being into trans women who care, just admit that. So they all have to say they're 100% straight even though they're

18:14 fucking obviously, not obviously not. Yeah, but she doesn't weirdest sex scenes, which obviously like we all know as superfans that Hunter was not an actor before you for a she only did modeling does it so, I mean fuck. I I couldn't fuck. Eric what? Are attained is on. Yeah, are just speaking of without laughing. So like good for her good. Yeah, that's our speaking of we revisit their Motel sex scene during the sequence, which definitely paints it in a bit of a Different Light. Because the first time we talked about this, it was a little ambiguous

18:44 how rapey this was a mystery. Like, it's right, because definitely, like, put some points on the side of it, being more rapey, given that she's like sometimes it's so aggressive. I just imagined myself somewhere else, or whatever. Yeah, that's happening. Like, that's not a good sign. It shows that like clearly that was not like a romantic hot moment for her. It was definitely a little bit traumatizing if you want. I mean, she just imagine, she's not even in that moment. Yeah, ring that, which is like a pretty classic thing people say when they're being raped clothes. That's awful. Yeah,

19:15 but definitely sheds, a little more light on that. On a lighter note. She does want to move to NYC. She's hugging ruin. They show her quickly. Yeah, kind of talking about how now she's you know, we wrap up Jules upbringing by. Now. I've met ruin, my life is like going well, I like her, she's cool. She's dope. I picture us like living our life together in New York City to shitty, New York City Apartment. I would have been more. I think the writers should have put like the Big Apple. A better way to say it. Don't like it's okay. Like, you know, you win some, you lose some but I'm really think she could have

19:45 said the Big Apple in that but yeah, come on. Euphoria screenwriter, is Sam levenson, like what the fuck? But yes, she wants to live in New York. So like shout out if Hunter wants to live in New York. She does Actually, I don't even know why I said that but if she wants to live with us, like we have a studio but like she could live in the Kitchen, yeah, I decided to come over for happy hour. We'd love to have you. Yeah, you can sleep in our cat's bed. But yeah, let's come on. Yeah, the credits which we both were like, oh my God, this song is like really good

20:15 and then I was like, wait, I'm a super fan. How do I not know? How do I not know this song? I have the Euphoria vinyl. I have the soundtrack on my Spotify. So I'll still a little digging and it is Labyrinth. We guessed it. But like yeah. Is Labyrinth, but it's not on the official like soundtrack release. Because, allegedly, it's an unreleased track from his new album. But if you want to find it, like, will put it on her Instagram, but also it's called never felt so alone Euphoria version. Yeah, totally.

20:45 And that's one of the like that, I'm pretty. So, so on Labyrinth score for you for you. I think it has great moments and not so great moments. But this is one of my favorite songs for him. Cool. Really enjoy that one. Yeah, and there we go. Guard. And then we're into it, we're into it. So my first point was, I like to talk about, I don't know why this like, caught my eye, but when Crews talking about her life with Ali at the diner, all that you like got into the diner details, but she kind of talked about like

21:15 Yeah, The Diner Deets. I noticed that she was talking a lot about how she had no passion for anything and for Alton I that was like, really weird and tough to hear because Ruth such a strong complex character, who has like, such a great. Ality, so when you hear that, like someone like, that doesn't have a passion for anything. It's like almost hard to swallow your like shit. That's like really rough because, like ABS can describe us very quickly. Like, we are some of the most passionate people around. I feel like almost to the point where like our friends are like, can you both like

21:46 yeah down. I mean, like we there are so many things we're interested in and passionate about that. We could live like lifetimes and never run out of stuff to be like into like music film art history. This Last podcast like Euphoria fucking everything and like anything. I don't know. I find everything like fascinating and I can't really imagine not having like things that you're just like interested in. Because as long as I can remember, like literally from like Age 3 started with Star Wars, I've just been like completely

22:16 invested in, like, being so fucking into things. And being into drugs, we talked about because drugs for both of us, anytime we've experimented with drugs. It's literally hand-in-hand with our passions, which are music watching something weird or funny on TV. You like? Yeah, like what's she doing? Hanging around? But like I think it's a good idea. I never noticed it until we watched it for the hundredth time this time around. And I think it's a good. It's just a really good observation because it makes you really see roofer

22:46 who she is. And you really feel this emptiness because you're like, wow, that must feel so lonely to have no passions because passions really can be like your friends here home. He's like, well, I just mean it like music like film. I'm like, you get lost in it and for her to not have any of that. Fuck. Like, now I get why she's like, I guess it addict and loves Jewels. But anyway, yeah, that's an interesting Dimension to her character. It does. But the diner a great Diner. Yeah, it is a great Diner. I'm a big nerd about

23:16 Good Diner. Love a good diner. Yeah, and Ela in particular, has some of the like, great classic diners that are all film and TV we've never mentioned this either. I'll so I met in La, I went to school. They're so like we're not just speaking of like, oh, you know, we don't know anything. Like we actually both lived in La for a long time. I was born there. So, like, L is in our culture truly. So I looked it up and the diner there at is called pans and it's been there since the 50s.

23:47 It's been in some other film and TV including a XXX starring Vin Diesel as well as two separate Nic Cage. Movies Matchstick Men and next. Yeah another person. Plug. Alex is literally borderline obsessive indicated. She sleeps on a pillowcase with his face. It's beyond borderline. I am fully obsessed with Nic cage. Maybe just started podcast about Nick Cage that. Oh, okay. We don't even get me sucks for later. Anyways, this is a great Diner. It's a great Classic 50's, La Diner and it's in the

24:17 architectural style known as googie, which is what D, gu gu goog, IE, which is a style of architecture. That's kind of from like the space age. It's very like Best-looking. It's usually found in like motels coffee shops, gas stations diners, that type of stuff and it's kind of that style that incorporates lots of like space-age, like imagery like flying saucers or like the atom, the symbol of the atom or like big blocky letters, like

24:47 stuff like that. It's that very like of the time. Retro-futuristic like cool look. And this is a great example. Oh, total like and the location Scouts obviously knew what the fuck they were doing. Yeah. A lot of people also think this is the diner where they filmed the scenes in Pulp Fiction, but it's not it was pan, sister. Restaurant Holly's in Hollywood. I don't know only that but people aren't too far off. I guess. Well, it's great. I mean this scene is obviously really great essentially, all we just gives her the fucking rule

25:17 the land, which is like, you know, you're an addict. You're addicted to jewels, like, you need to be fucking careful and tread lightly. Yeah, and you can tell that route gets it to like she does at Hitler's. Large sum fuk. Yeah, like you're right. Like I am just I just traded addiction to drugs for edition of jewels. Yeah, but it's also a sad like realization because she really does very Souls. It's not just like your Baseline. Like now, I'm just, like, hooked onto this person. Just cause it's like, I know now that I'm addicted to this person, but I also

25:47 like still like this percent slots. Yeah, and now she has to figure out how to tell addiction from love. Yeah, that's navigate this shit. How to not make it like a new unhealthy like addiction like Like totally stuff. But yeah, they're in there her and I'll lie and I thought it was funny in this scene because we're mentions. She's talking about her classmates. Having Tumblr rants, which I thought was funny because it's tumblers pretty much dead nowadays after their ban on porn and still exists, but it kind

26:17 of died after the a new company bought it and they kind of put it in. You like new policies in place that prohibited like pornographic content, which is like all it was. And I pretty much killed Tom like Tumblr. Yeah, I had a roommate that like Love Tumblr, shout-out teal, but like it was definitely like the Hipster Vibe but like, and I mean that in like a complimentary way, like I always loved. It was essentially like a really good mood board. Just stare at and like scroll through four hours. Yeah, it was different than Instagram though because it wasn't self-promoting. It was like promoting other people's art

26:48 other people's like, you know, yeah, I mean I'm doing is I guess if you will, I think you saw like near the end of Tumblr. I think kind of shit came like more of like kind of the early. Roots of influencers. Where there were these people that were like sharing photos of themselves and their lives on Tumblr and we're getting huge followings off of it. So it was kind of like maybe the early days of influencers, but for the most part Tumblr was not so like self-congratulatory, even if you were posting pictures of yourself, and I even got up this early making money

27:18 off, the you might get internet famous, but it wasn't like this thing where you get brand deals and shit. No, and you were telling me which I didn't know, because I was like, why should I about Tumblr rant? About Tumblr, was just fucking pictures, but you said that people, I would go on there like it was there. Yeah. People use it kind of like Myspace or like a diary type way and every people would it was also a big thing in like the like fan community. So all the, all the cringey fanfic that abstract ratings. And if that's where you would go, if you wanted to find like shitty fan art

27:48 of like two characters like hooking up, like come for the tumbler leave with a fantasy or whatever, but I don't know, kind of all right, Peter Tumblr. It was like really cool for a while and I I found out about a lot of bullshit on Tumblr. And yeah, I asked you, I used to be fucking cool. Well, you know what? Let's take a moment of silence for Tumblr. Yeah. Alright, man. Alright, we are entering the carnival. Yeah, the town Carnival. So this is

28:18 clearly like outlined as a big deal in the community, which is so stupid as I was and I have our thoughts on small towns because he's from one and like I think these type this type of shit is so stupid, but they're all excited. Everyone's there. We get this. Great opening shot of Angus. Sorry, that is co. I confuse all their new You know how it is? That's gone. Astray opening up there. What is it? Pretzel Mania, the pretzel sound so they can sulk WrestleMania. Yeah. Here's a fun vacation.

28:48 Here's a good. Small town story for you. So in my small town, Vancouver, Washington, the yearly, like fall, like festival carnival thing was called the sausage fest. Know, it was, and I grew up with this every year. So I don't really get that. That was until I was older. And then I was like, like dude. It was run by the church. It was run by like the Church of I like Saint Joseph's church, and it was because they like had like a bratwurst for sale

29:19 and that's how they made a lot of the money but like yeah every year I went to the sausage fest growing up and didn't realize how funny that was until I was like a teenager. I was like, oh, how does the dumbest shit? Like, I can't even keep up. I'm a city girl. It really gets me but yeah, I know what it's like when the carnival comes to town the fall. Yeah, but Fusco has this great Supreme sweater. He's like, let's get this money. Yeah, they're

29:49 setting up their stance at this. You got a really great very quick couple of shots following every character, which the whole episode is just bouncing all around, which is what makes it so unique. And so aesthetically pleasing in my opinion is that I love shit like this. Because, you know, if you're a film geek of any sort, you know, how much work goes into these. Type of shots, but essentially they're following every characters, plot line throughout the whole episode. So we've got Alex is weird yellow, lighting the whole thing. The lighting's, very like purple and yellow in this episode.

30:19 Yeah. It's almost like, yeah, it's like very weird. It's good. They do a good job. And we walked like, a little interview of the HBO does like after the show and they're talking about how they were trying to make the carnival, like, super, psychedelic and chaotic, and they definitely execute. Yeah, they had some interesting stuff to say about how carnivals are kind of like this, weird experiential, like space. Exist. Very light. It's like a bubble. Like you can go in there and it's super psychedelic and weird and there's like specially groundhogs the cassia Maddy's jams. And like it's an atmosphere where the fireworks weird

30:50 things happen like luck. There's some like, you know, you can like kind of Escape if you have a significant. Yeah. I thought that was like I thought it was an interesting take on that. You're not like I thought was a good analysis of like a carnival and what it represents. And then I also thought that they did a great job, like, Translating that into the episode. I also vote the Carnival's one of those spots were like, you know, You're going as a kit like or a high school kid. At least. I don't know if you can relate. I definitely can is like, you know, you're going to the carnival and you're not going to like go on the route. You're going to like the cargo always now. Look, it's like a

31:20 weird. Yeah, it's never normal. There's always scandalous shit going on. Even going back, like to like, old old like books and stuff like Something Wicked. This Way Comes, like the carnival coming to town is not necessarily like a good thing. No. And people usually get upstairs, good buyer. Like yeah, definitely. So we got this great and Like I said, the shots are amazing. Apparently, like the crew built these like crazy Dolly shots where they're like, running through this Carnival, you know, in one take, which is so hard to execute. They're doing

31:50 a lot of like long tracking shots on dollies and then like flipping the camera around and running it back now, their way and you filming the other side of like what the camera was sitting the first Ron which is cranes like whipping around. So you get the ferris wheel chocks. Like so there were literally like going from a dolly to like a crane then back down. I mean it was like, yeah. And they like Blended. Also, it seamlessly looks like one long. Take they also build the carnival from the ground up, which is really cool. So, like when they plan this episode, they had no idea what it was gonna look. Like, they weren't even really knowing if they were going to be able

32:20 to do this. So that's pretty dope and they did it on like a like a haunted Fairgrounds type though. Yeah, you read about that didn't. I was reading an interview Sweeney and algae. Yeah. I was reading interview with those two and they mentioned that this was filmed on this big like the grounds of like a big mental hospital where a bunch of patients escaped and like murdered a bunch of groundskeepers. Good, I couldn't confirm any of this but that's what they both said. They said it was haunted. They said they went down in the morgue and it was super creepy and they were there filming all night and shit. So I'm in a mix. That's what she gets weird. Yeah. There you

32:50 go. So we got this funny quick Moment, Like I said, we're following each character. We see Nate, he's calling Maddie and screaming of course because he's a huge dick. He's like, where are you at? I was laughing because I was making fun. Alex. This is some shit. Alice would do if he was meeting up with me. He's horrible with directions. I know I would be at the ferris wheel. It just wouldn't be the right. Ferris wheel. Yeah, right. It's fucking classic whatever. But it's a great hilarious scene because first of all, knee is so fucking stupid. He finally meets up with Maddie, a calls, her a hooker, which

33:20 like, no fast. He's like, why are you dressed like a hooker? Yeah, like the Carnival's a place where you should be dressed. So conservatively, like fuck off mate. Secondly. He literally is like this chili cook-off. Do you even know what this means to my family? It's like a Chili cook-off. You could literally crack open a can of chili from Trader, Joe's and throw it into a pot. And it would probably take Better than the one your family make so calm down. She's like, what? It's just the carnival and he's like, no, it's the chili cook-off. Like you're like, it's like the Catalina fucking wine mixer, like, exactly. And he made it so fucking, what does the, what

33:50 does it mean? It's the chili cook-off. Like, how should she have dressed for the chili? Cook-off, like a fucking pants suit, like what did you want? Like also I love Maddie's off it to death. It's this actually, it's this designer. I'm really a big fan of shout-out. It's, I am Gia Gia, they do a lot of cool shit. They do a lot of more like costume. Me stuff. So that's why it's supposed to be like, not your normal everyday outfit. It's like something you'd wear to Coachella. Yeah. I mean it's a ridiculous outfit. Yeah, like it's all, it's the carnival. It's Maddie. What the fuck? What do you expect for Maddie?

34:20 So then after that we kind of just like I said, we follow each character. I kind of put a little tiny note that I always think it's cute when you see cat and jewels together because I was forget the like cat was jewels first friend. I don't know why I said, yeah, and I think our other friends might Something to say about this too, but I feel like also I didn't really think about this until just recently, but I feel like you never see ruin Jewels really hanging out with the girl squad if you will. Yeah, I think they're just kind of more like casual like

34:50 Associates with well as opposed to like tight friends. Yeah, but they're also the most. Yeah. And that's where we get here. We get Lexi. GN Rue or hanging out at the carnival and then they bump into, they meet up with Jules. And Jules is a gem here. She's so nice and chill and casual. About what happened between her and Russia doesn't make it like shady or awkward or anything. Yeah, she could have easily, like, made fun of her, humiliate her, and, you know, whatever. But like she was so chill. Mmm about their first kiss. And also, once

35:20 again, Rue is looking great outside of school. She's got like the trench coat with the like glittery, like tear a sentir type thing going on. Which totally works like now that makeup crew like executed that so well. Yeah, but also it's really funny because Alex definitely doesn't agree with this one, but I definitely understand why fans think this Lexi has a little moment where G is like, it's kind of a funny moment because like Jewels Andrew or like hugging, they're having their moment G is like just so, you know,

35:50 to Lexi confirmed ruse fucking obsessed with jewels and is in love with her. Yeah. And Lexi. Kind of brushes it off. Like oh, like, I didn't know that like kind of like em. Oh, and like she kind of gives off a little bit of like jealousy and I don't know if it's romance. A lot of people out there. Think likes he likes. Rue like, a romantic way, I don't know. I'm like, I'm in the middle. I call bullshit on that. So I don't think she's like a love. I would never be like, oh my God likes, he's lusting over Rue. I do think it's more

36:20 of an ownership thing where it's like, I've been your friend. I've done more for you than, like Jewels house. Yeah, that makes sense. It's like you come to me whenever you need ship but then you're like, oh Jewel. She's so amazing. It's like wow, fuck you. What about me? Yeah, of course. Now, that makes sense. I just don't buy this like romance thing between, though. I think it's weird. I think it's totally normal that Lexie. Be like, kind of like standoffish during this leg seen, given that all of a sudden realize, like this brand new friend who she's completely obsessed with after she's been treating Lexi like shit for a long time. That is a very cool person. Like she drives us and also like,

36:50 without us. And I mean, we don't know this, but I'd doesn't seem like there have been prior hints that Rose into girls. So like Lexie is probably a little like interested at least the G is like a bruise in love with her. Like that's probably a little bit Alexei. Like, I don't know alarming but like oh farming. But like we don't know this yet, but It seems like this is kind of new for Rousseau as someone that's known her pretty much our whole life. Like she's probably just like, oh, I'm interestings. All I want to say is I'll all of us super fans. Definitely want to see more behind-the-scenes Alexei. We just need

37:20 to know more about her life would really don't know a lot about her personal background. So season to season two, you better play in the Lexi. Like we stand like that. Yeah. So yeah. Then moving on, did you have anything else to say about that? I'm somebody running into each other. Let me move on to MacKay bringing Cassie around. The Nate Jacobs family. Yeah, I'm like I said, I'll be Smith so much love for you. But damn your character Joey once again looking. Okay, we don't, but this is the thing, and I Alex is a little different than

37:50 I am. I don't hate McKay. I just think he's a dumb immature. High schooler. I think there's a difference. I hate mate. I don't hate McKay. I think he has good intentions. I think he's just so classic immature. Like hurts worse when McKay is shitty, because Cassie's, like one of the only like, Good, truly good people on the show. Everyone else is kind of shitty. So you don't feel that bad for them. When other characters treat them bad, but Kathy is like an actually good person. So it fucking sucks, but it is so shit

38:20 either. I know. But also it's interesting because whenever algae's interviewed about McKay, it makes a lot of sense that he goes, more in-depth on McKay's character and it's very obvious that like, he's very self-conscious. He's never had a girlfriend like Cassie and Cassie such like a prize. She's I mean, she has like sex videos out and stuff. So I think he's just really territorial over her. But in a way that's like, he doesn't even know how to Grapple with having like a girlfriend like cast. It doesn't excuse anything, but I think

38:50 he's just very like vulnerable and he's not good at managing it so many ways, I agree. But anyways, I went on a ramp but I don't think I wasn't excuse. The fact that Nate's, like, oh, are you guys in a relationship and make a just goes? No, we're just chilling. Oh, Cassie's face is like, excuse me, and that moment. Oh, I would be the yeah, and then Comes in and doubles up on the shittiness. I was like, oh, he's just being a super fucking misogynist like dickhead as like, oh McKay, you got to do a lot to keep a girl like that. Like a girl like what? Like fuck. You I know,

39:20 you know about your old man. Yeah. What do you know about Cassie and also like how dare you like your old? Yeah, exactly. It's just gonna go see doubles up on if I going down the whole, like, the football thing. He's like, it's not just football. It's life. Like, no, it is just football. It's a Fucking game. It's a dumb ones. A silly game that people play for fun. Like it's not life. It's a game. Life is not a game. It's also not life when you live in a small town and you're not really going to make it anywhere like McKay. No offense, but it's like, you know, you know

39:50 wake-up call. Well according to kalmykia is like the best sidestep 45 in the league or whatever the fuck, the Jenna's hitting ladies and gentlemen, the Gin is heading Alex, stupid stuff 45. I don't like pretty much what he says love it. But anyways, we do. A good a great. We have to walk to interesting moments. We got a great older brother moment, Aaron who's drunk in the corner of the tent. And he's just like, he's really still Reserve. No less pretty much the cheapest shittiest like

40:21 a malt liquor alcohol. You can get in the winter for cows. Prestigious elitist family, who drinks? Who would he drinks Cooks? Yes, everything is cooked. But anyways, he's drunk and he's like, just in the corner. Like pretty much mocking, his brother and his dad. It's just like a great scene II think. It's so redeeming is, he's the only Only redeeming quality in that fucking family, but they're also plays into the big mystery. Who is the little son. Yeah. So here we have the whole knit, the whole Jacobs family and the little son from the family

40:51 photo on the phone. And on the wall is mysteriously absent. He's never there. And it's like, where's Willie? I think he's got to be dead. Not okay. He might be dead but also like he should be there because if there's no reason a little boy would stay home. Like also, they're all young and that photo he's clearly out of the For some reason he's out of intentionally is omitted from every scene with that family other than the family photos. And that's for a reason. Is he dead? Probably, yeah. Well, he should be there. Stirring the chili with a family because the chili is so important.

41:22 So, where are you little son and then we're gonna put the photo the mystery little song. We will absolutely have to plug the family photo and one of our posts and I would love all of our fans to comment. Like, who do we think this little son, is if he had a name, what would it be? And like, where was he during this? Chili cook-off? Yeah, well, his name is fan. He's dead and he's buried in the ground. Okay. Well, I think his name is beans. I think that's pretty good. I think you had bad gas and had to stay home and you miss the carnival. Oh, you think he's still alive. Just at home with bad gas.

41:52 Exactly. Fascinating will see in season 2. Then we transition into the scene with Cassie and Maddie, correct? Yeah, the girls like both had some bad times with their men. So they're like, little talking, get some drugs. So it's boys. I got it. Goes to want to do more. You want to do Molly incasa's just like yes, please. Yeah, so they go through the great seamless, ticket process of getting a ticket to Pretzel Mania Astros, like welcome to Pretzel Mania. Gonna take her order. I love

42:22 ashtray, but you're like Kim crackles, please and that is like, you carbs and cast is just like, oh my God. Maddie's shut up. And then they have a little moment. But there's the exam score of those pretzels away though. They should be eating those. Yeah, that probably would help them out, right? They were both kind of struggled getting you some food. Dude, this is some protein. Yeah, but I love the line when Maddie's like bitch. You're my soulmate. I mean, everybody loves that. I have a bracelet with that engraved on it. That's how much I love it. It's a great moment in time. But anyways, Maddie

42:52 has a small moment where she like, grabs Kathy by the arm and it's like I got to talk to you. Like Nate has dick pics. And I mean that's an important moment to remember because we get into that next episode. Oh, yeah, anything else to say about Maddie and Cassie. I mean, they're just having a great night. Oh, no, they're night start. A great. Then we go. I have the time I wrote that I was really drunk during that episode and I accidentally thought I got Alex, was laughing at me so hard. I was like, why is it say Jacobs family on the chili tent because I was thinking Jacob. Oh, Lordy.

43:22 I was like, why would they put the real actors name on the 10th? And then I forgot that Nate's, last name is Jacob's. I mean, right, it just goes to show. You can watch a show 20 times and it's like, fuck, I didn't know. Need, it's not Jacobs family. It's the Jacobs family. I'm sorry, the Jacob, Jacob's family. They actually that really transcends. Age was pretty confused about that was just like, yeah, so then Ruiz not believing Jules about the Cal hook up. So

43:52 she heads on over to the Jacobs tent to get some chili and puts the power play on Cal, which is fucking great. It's he's just quaking in his boots like a little quaking in his boots. His Ladle is shaking. The chili is flying off the ladle, on, to the table. Yeah, chili, flying everywhere. Everyone staring and need is so Maddie. That's my favorite part. Yeah, this is in the corner and he can't do anything about it because you can't let his dad know that he knows. Exactly. So we both love that part because it's like fuck you Nate. You should be so

44:22 mad. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Fuck tools. Yeah, and then they look at a pan over to ruin. Her face is fucking hilarious. She's like really then she just like turns around and walks away very awkwardly in the dark. Yeah, then Aaron calls. Jules jailbait, which It is so funny because it's just, like, once again are just drunk having a good time. Yeah, a little, does he know both of the other men in his family? Have had sexual encounters. Some feelings about that jelly. So then we have the, in my opinion, one of the

44:52 most empowering female scenes and all of euphoria, which is when Maddie is clapping. They won the fucking chili cook-off. Yeah, you get a trophy. That's probably plastic. She's clapping and she walks right up in the moms. Like what the hell is wrong with you? And she has you cunt. Clicks over the chili pot knocks the chili pot over so good enough, great classic. Fuck you moment the classic fuck you moment. But the fact that they used the word come to makes it even better because everyone's so afraid to use that word and I feel like I won't go into it because so

45:22 many people get so easily offended but I don't really care. Like I think it's a funny word ever. It's just whatever. It's so empowering. I would say it more but it's honestly not that fun to say but yeah, it doesn't roll off the tongue but in that moment, it does. Yeah, conchiglie. Yeah. It's a great moment to Great words. Put together. Yeah, and that's kind of like what silly cunt. Your mom is a chili cunt, but Mom is definitely a chilly, 100% affirmed. So I can't confirm then, you know, after the chili

45:53 comes we pan over to the Cassie Carousel moment. Yeah, Cassie is a she's having a good time. Casting grabs, Daniels. Like when I ride the the carousel Daniel being cats ex-boyfriend from like when they were 10 or something. Huh? They go ride. The carousel. Boy Cass is having a case. Like I could ride the carousel forever. Okay, I can relate to Kasich is Alice knows this. I've the very few times I have experimented with drugs,

46:23 like Molly. I definitely get that same like horny feeling. So, like, I can't even imagine, like, riding a carousel. Like I do. I just all I'm gonna say is, I know how she felt in that moment and there's nothing more horrifying for a carousel to come to us. Slow stop. And then to look around and see everyone just staring at you. Like, what the actual fuck? And you just, like, coming off this high. Like I totally get why she goes into like a very quick downward spiral. I don't even think it's about, it's not even about kissing Daniel.

46:53 I think she's just like, oh my God, this is humiliating. Like I've been like moaning and groaning out loud On a Carousel. Yeah. It's another one of those moments that Euphoria does. Well, we're like, from the inside, the drug experience is looking like great. Like, you're on the carousel. It's It's sexy like those are cool. They're not you're making out with Daniel like he's cute. Like this is like great and then as soon as you're like outside that moment it's like what the fuck is this girl doing like jizzing all over the carousel in front of all the like all the kids like and

47:23 dads. Well, Dad's especially so it's like not only that, but also, I'm sure a part of her, of course, feels guilty because she does love McKay. So that's also really shitty because you're like, damn it. I was I was like in the moment, she does. She's really sad after. Yeah, I guess she is. So. Then pan over to cat. Am I right? I mean yeah, a little bit. Yeah, we go to cat at a certain point and she's she had met up with Ethan. They were gonna get drunk on slushies and have some fun on the Tilt-A-Whirl. They're like,

47:54 yeah. I love the Tilt-A-Whirl. Hate hate hate that, right, whatever. Whatever you want. Yeah, I'd on the zipper. Yeah, because fuck the zipper little terrible last ride. Of course. I almost cried on it's all brass zipper once and I thought I was going to love it and he literally was screaming. Almost cried. I was not screaming but I was horrified. And the zipper is absolutely trash. It's not fun. If you think it is, fuck you, but yeah, they're gonna have some fun and then cat kind of mistakes. Like, one of Ethan's like dumb sisters,

48:24 Dumb Friends, like talking to him and gets all upset. She get self-conscious. That's all she just. I think she just in that moment is like I thought he liked me. This is obviously just like a friend thing, not more than that. So I think she just got self-conscious and kind of dip. Well, yeah and I I would be goes off the hook, the cast in the legendary, like a big, big dicks boy, the big dick Carney from previously from the high school who is very hot. Finally Panic at upgrades from like Tiny Dick Diaper Man and like it was announced that Lee and she gets like one of the hottest

48:54 dudes on the show. She looks pretty good in this episode to skip a latex read like top. She just looks good. She raw dogs it with the cast and though which is yes, we do. Because she asks, if he has a condom and he says no, You're right. Okay, so she's gonna get pregnant, but whatever it is, he's cute. I think she's on birth control which so you should still do both kids, but still hot guy, right? She told his Rod. I'll get it. Yep. And then meanwhile, we got Nate who is choking the shit out of Maddie.

49:25 Are we surprised at all the natives physically abusive? Like no, no one surprised by this. Yep. I mean, there's not much more to say and the other part that I know you brought up. While we were watching it, which I thought was really important, and I'll say again, is that? It shows how manipulative knee is because he chokes Maddie, and then he's so manipulative like, controlling her feelings, because he ropes her right back in, by being like, I had a really hard week, like yes,

49:55 I oh, I don't want to talk about my dick pics. Like, it's just, there's just so much going on in my life and Maddie fucking Falls for it. Yeah. So there's a lot of shit going on here. First of all, like it, this is Is one of many reasons, it's tough to like fullilove Maddie because she has some great moments, like, knocking over the chili pot, and like, bang and Tyler, but then she also like, follows those up by just like, wasn't out and going back to Nate or doing other really shady stuff. Like saying the Tyler raped her whistling out and I agree with

50:25 you because she's not the classic abuse victim. That's like submissive to him, like even after he chokes her. She like, instead of being like, I'm sorry, and like crying in a corner. She immediately is like, what's up with that? Dick's on your phone like she's yeah. She never seen some beautiful. Yeah, she's not afraid of him about but she shouldn't be but she doesn't seem to be scared of them. That's, I mean, she's not your classic abuse victim. So it's really hard to empathize with her because you're like, you're so strong. Yeah. She's like one of the few balls. There's a few characters in the show that you like 1/11 times and then they're kind of like really shady people

50:55 in other moments. So it's hard to like, fully get behind them and she's like one of those big examples, but then other than that, this scene is like really interesting. Because right around the salt, same time. We also have And The Jewels. Yes, and basically at like begging her like to not ruin his life and it's interesting because we see like a contrast between how Nate and Cal approach these situations. And I think that more vulnerable, I think it tells us a lot about their characters SoCal.

51:25 Approach is Jules very vulnerable like basically on his knees. He's sorry. A very like human approach. Basically like trying to connect with her trying to like ask Her. But never being like super manipulative, just being very like legitimate and like yeah authentic and is like, I know you could ruin my life and all I can say is like, please don't lose. He's not only vulnerable. But he's very, you can tell that we have that previous theory that he might be a victim himself and I think that's like a huge indicator. It's

51:55 like that's what the victim normally does is they empathize but they have some sort of level of empathy and like human connection, which I feel like in that moment, cow kind of was like, yeah, I The I find it to be a little piece of evidence that possibly cowl is a victim or is had something fucked up. Happen to them. Possibly a little beans dying. Who knows. But like I think that there's some like degree of like real like trauma or something, and that he liked approaches, this situation, very like humanly

52:26 not men on threatened Jewel, right does not threaten jewels. And then this is contrasted heavily by Nate who is immediately just being so manipulative to Maddie. He's trying to like Being very cold, clearly like manipulative trying to get her back on her side, all the emotion he's showing is so obviously fake. Yeah, it's not even real. You don't even know if I'm not at all. So obviously exactly and that's probably cause nothing shit. He's ever happened to him. So then we

52:56 quickly once again, it bounces around a shit ton. So then we get I Rosy and GI because I always say Sunday, instead of Ruby. Yeah, room Gia happens moment where roof finds GI which you make Her friend. Yeah, she finds Gia because we runs into her dumb ass for and he's like, basically brain-dead and it's like, like I think Gia's like over there behind that thing. Like I have to pee is basically just a useless. Like she's like, yeah. She's like a slug human. But through this like human

53:26 useless friend. They find Gia who's over there. Smoking weed with Roy and Troy McKay's Brothers. Yes, as we now know, as we now know, McCain's Brothers, but this is another ER instance, where we both are. Like sometimes we stand the twins. Sometimes we think they're just both, they fucking sock and this is when they fucking suck. This is also when you really see ruined Gia's like just their sister had shines through because you know, what? In that moment, ruin Troy's suck and I say another essentially mocking

53:57 roof or od'ing Gia stands up. She's like stoned as fuck but she knows like mmm, you don't cross that line. That's my sister. Like you don't get to say that shit. And I love it. She just gets up and goes with Russia doesn't even like five back to those kind of like, yo, that was lame. Yeah, we're back to fuck. Rowing, try for being shitty to ruin her back to and Tamara G is Chill. There G, looks like a classic thirteen-year-old Hershey way over did her eye makeup. Like she's got the total raccoon eyes, but like so it goes also like is she's such a cute standard

54:27 like when they're walking home. I love that part when she's like, what should I do? Like when I see Mom like, what should I do? So nervous. It's cute. Who's got her back? She's like, just go straight to your room. Umm, which we know all about because we have to do that for each other all the time. Even as adults, like literally if we're too fucked up, be like come home to Alice's parents house. I mean not anymore is were in New York now. His parents are back in Washington. But yeah, you get the picture. Oh, yeah, we covered for each other all the time. So then we got, you know, the last concluding scenes of this episode which are actually really

54:57 beautiful. There's one shot in particular, the Alex and I are like obsessed with. Yeah. It's when Jules is riding her bike through the dark and it's like again in the Orange Groves. It's lit by like a big white Spotlight and it's in slow. Mo. There's the super creepy like heavy ambient like droning score going. It's almost like a white noise though. It's not even like a, you know what? I mean? Like, that's like the ground, the droning like white noise and it's very, this is a very David Lynch shot. I'm a huge, David Lynch

55:27 fan, speaking of another great l a diner, the one in the long drive. Okay, but yeah, great. It's fucking see here. And also took a shot out of like a horror movie. Like there is intense dread. Like this is like heavy scary weird shit, which is interesting because I didn't realize this until now, but when I was watching it, I thought immediately not only do I love that shop, but it's very foreshadowing that obviously this isn't going to go. Well. Alright, I feel so stupid because when I first watched you for my very first time around

55:57 the end of this episode was AA, huge plot twist for me. I knew it was me, but I thought Nate was going to meet up with Jules. I'm secretly be like, hey, you're the only one that Like understand that I'm gay. Like I thought they were going to have us a card. I really did. I thought maybe it was going to like open up and he'd have some sort of like redeeming moment because we haven't seen anything. So I was like, we're going to see it. Now. If you can't wait. Now that I watch it, I'm like that scene literally sets you up for like like you said, it's like a horror film. So like watching that I should have known. Like this is not gonna go.

56:27 Well, something is gonna happen. That's really bad. And sure enough it does. Yeah, they they meet up there in this weird like park that's lit by I like football stadium lights and is super weird and creepy. Scary. Yeah, it's true. He's walking toward her. You're like fuck. Even though we all know, it's Nate. It's like very scary. Like, oh my God. Yeah, it's super scary. And then Nate is pretty much that they're initially. At least two kind of like, fulfill his sexual fantasies, which are derived

56:58 from his like, sexual obsession with his father. So, he basically tries to recreate Cal's like bang action, interaction, and with jewels like, Her with the whole Thumb in the mouth thing. Totally and thinking, not going to go. Well. And like this is I mean, that's basically like, it's like how they talk about, like, people that don't have sexual experience. Try to, like, mimic, try to mimic like porn and what they've seen and it's like, that's not what real sex is like. And that's basically Nate, he's just trying to do like, what he's seeing, you know, I just thought, what else does that make

57:28 a Jeffrey Kaye. Totally chokes. Cassie. And I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, at least McKay learns, but does and he's so apologetic. We're ninjas. Exactly. But but I was going to also, say, when I first watched this, I don't know about all of our little fans listening, but I feel like I thought he was doing that. With revenge in mind, meaning he was mocking what she did with Cal, but now I see it as what Alex said, which is it's absolutely neat being. So just like not at all aware of like his sexual

57:58 orientation and he's just not open to it. He's very closed off. He has no emotions. So like for him he thought mimicking what his dad did would be like successful and then Julie We'll do it. This is hot and I could fulfill his fantasy. Obviously. If we said, I don't know, think he's there. Like, I don't think he likes her on the ground, there for her. I think he's there to there. Kiss was like, real me and like I thought for a second. I really mean this. I think Jules was kind of like, this is weird, but I'm like here for it. And then I feel like he was kind of, like, hoping it would keep going and she was like, no, she never

58:28 seemed therefore it to me. But either way, my take on it is that need is there to, like, live out like his real sexual, like, Fantasy, which is based on this, like a fucking perverted obsession with his father's sex tapes. That's fucked up. And when that doesn't go well, he flips the script real fucking quick, which were you and I both agreed. He had this in his back pocket. Meaning like he knew if this didn't go. Well, he was going to have this be like the outcome. Yeah, I mean straight up to me. The scene tells us that Nate

58:58 is a sociopath because he can't. I think he came there for himself and with this like one goal in mind and the second leg that Don't work out. He is like, okay, cool. The it's like the sweat the switch flipped like he is cold. He doesn't give a shit about her as a person. It's a definitive like instant switch to like his cold like lizard brain Persona. Yes? Where? He's immediately just like, fuck you. Yeah, like I'm going to make her life. He's a complete sociopath. He. I think he only like I think he can make that switch.

59:28 I don't think he has like human empathy and I think he's like, only there to fulfill like his own insane, like fucked up goals with no regard for. For like anyone else. Absolutely great. It's a really dark, very sad scene for Joel's but actually, no, she comes out on top. I think, personally, I mean, I know it's traumatizing for her, but fuck when she grabs me and like, calls him out, or what. Does she do. She's like, what did she say? She's like, you're just like, you're just like, you know, I think like I think you're a faggot. Just

59:58 like your daddy or something which is like baller. Like once again, like we said, the beginning of the episode for how much Jules has gone through. She's so confident and she really is a. We also said that I do want to say this. He essentially tells jewels that she's broken, which I think is so stupid because neat, is the one that's broken, not Jules Jules is strong. She knows who she is, and sure she may have some bumps in the road. But like we've learned from this episode that she has risen

1:00:29 from like a very dark spot that her mom put her through and she's come out stronger than ever. So I feel like it's like, no, fuck you. Jules knows who? She is. She knows who she wants to be. Yep, Nate. I think that comment on Nate's part is very self referential without him. Whether he means it or not. I think he's really talking about himself. What is he has? Thanks to Kylie as this intense fear of, like, people coming after his family and his family getting fucked up and he's like, framing this as if he's like, afraid of jewels in

1:00:59 this instance and her fucking upper family, but I think what he's really afraid of and who's really broken and who he really doesn't, trust is himself. Yeah, he's afraid of racking his own family. And yeah, like he's gonna fuck shit up and I think some part of him like knows it because he's one of course in psychopath whenever you know, you're in the wrong. It's so it's so much easier to put the blame on someone else. So it's easy to be like well Jules, you're the reason my family's fact. It's like yeah bud. It's you know, it is also someone with a law degree could really fuck.

1:01:29 Nate up on this like basically this whole season. Everything Nene does hinges on making leg, vague legal threats and if any of these people ever consulted, a A lawyer. Like, I'm pretty sure all this cooking them to do so, but I get what you mean. I know it's just like these are all very vague threats. Where's Olivia Benson? When you need are aware, is oh, dog, we need Benson. He's, they monitor, SVU anyone, from there to help Jewels out in this moment. Yep, but you know, that's how the episode ends. Oh, no, it doesn't know. No. Oh my God. I forgot the most beautiful part. I'm sorry.

1:02:00 We have a redeeming, beautiful moment and give this fucked-up episode we do, and it's Jules running to Rue. Which is she calls her window? And as I go, can I stay the night? Very cute. Yeah, it's really cute. They like essentially have this little sleepover. And I think I wanted to also bring up that it's really sweet that Roux instead of being like Told You So I was right, like motherfucker was crazy, is a creep, you know, she really liked was very, very understanding about the coolest overhead or anything. They're

1:02:30 very like respectful to each other. They're pretty mature like they treat each other really well, they're not dramatically Cassie McCain. Oh no. So that's a really sweet moment. But anyways, there's this really beautiful like romantic scene where they're clearly like they're doing lots of stuff and nose and the bed, what they doing, they can out. I mean, I'm sure it went further than that all night. Well, that pretty much so I'll do it. But no, I mean, they really have this really beautiful like hook up moment. The cameras, like balding. Yeah, so

1:03:00 cute. Camera revolves. You can tell they're standing like the most and that but you talked about earlier and the score here is also so, Oh God, they use like a very like magical like old Hollywood Tolliver. Yeah, very old Hollywood. I think Golden Age very like romantic and magical which works super. Well, it does. Because it leads you like with goosebumps are just like, oh my God, this is the first episode where you're just like, I fully stand ruined Jewels. Like you want them to come out like

1:03:30 yeah, in a description. What? So, yeah, that's a real beautiful lapis. And then the credits roll. And after last week's fun, credit discoveries, I took a took a deep look at the credits this week. And yet again, we have some pretty funny, some pretty funny names in the credits. So, this week, we have some hook up, random sweet guy, random guy, and random weird guy. That was the difference between ran this weekend, random guy. I assume that in reference to

1:04:00 jewels, like are hookups. Also wouldn't that suck if you were an extra and that was your name was just random guy, like, at least. Me something, right? Like, I'd rather be random weird guy than just random guy. Yeah, that one guy's was random guy. Like, so we got sweet random and I just - what film to season two? They haven't even started their season two. We should absolutely Advocate to be extras. We should probably have to fly to LA. But okay, there's fuck it. I was just thinking

1:04:31 about, like you can easily, there's a lot of websites where you can sign up to be extras. I'm all of them. Yes, I am. We're getting on this later. Cool. So then we're on to superlatives. Yeah, all right, superlative best-dressed. I've been so Master asked for me. I said Maddie, I'm sure saying I went with a cat this episode, which I know you would not have seen coming probably, but I think her actions remain cat. I think our outfit works

1:05:01 for this is going to be. I like cats. It's not cliche. Doesn't look like she. Just bought it at like, hot topic. It's a very flattering for her. It's very common for us, definitely or not. I think the jackets, great. I think our hair is good. I like the choker, like a really good. She like got it together. She looks really good. Yeah, it's girl, Shannon clams. Kind of like her own style. It doesn't just feel like she just like pulled this off of, like, the mall. Like dressing gown. Absolutely. Like she actually, like, put something together with her own style and I work. So I like that

1:05:31 cat. You won best dressed. We're stressed for me. It's Maddie. I, that's what I mean. I don't Give a shit about the sluttiness of the outfit. I just don't think it looks very good. I don't find her if we're just gonna do it. Not my not my thing. Yeah, I'm just gonna let you take that because I really didn't. I couldn't think of anybody that was were stressed. I honestly just thought like whatever Fair. How about you baby of the episode Danny episode for me? Is Maddie like absolutely hands down. I mean to call anyone to come to is very like you go. I mean, especially when it's

1:06:01 warranted. And I mean, killing over a chili pot. I like pushing it over, whatever she does, kick it push it. That's hard right now. Yes, you have to work out to do that. I don't know if I could that be so embarrassing. If you like your accountant, you went in to kick it and couldn't like shove it out. We're gonna go over. Oh my God. Can you imagine the humiliation? Thank you. That would be me. So yeah, Maddie for me. It's a jewels Dad. We like there's a couple. Obviously, Jules is a total badass in this episode, but we say her a lot. But in this episode, we find out that Jules dad. Quit his job to like be with her.

1:06:31 Yep. They're like start transitioning at 16 like he was super cool. He was like, fuck you. To the mom and got her out of that Asylum. I gotta they're like, yeah, Joe's dad. Was that them Jewels? Dad. You are a real shining gem. How about your a big purple? Dirty rat? Bastard, Nate? It's gonna be Nate for me. It's always nice. Big surprise. What about class? Clown Class Clown? Hmm. I mean, I'm the same ad you again for the chili pot? Yeah. Actually, I'm not going

1:07:01 with Aaron the one brother that we do know, is that the picture for drinking Steel Reserve? Shitting on everyone and I'm calling Jules jailbait and just being kind of like a drunken Tipsy Gypsy, Carnival owner and just roasting everybody. Yeah, and the fact that he brings his family humiliation, like bringing the Jacobs humiliation is just like love it your ass. Yeah, my dude best couple that's a couple its rules for me. Like yeah, it's rules. They're continuing like the dramatic like emotional

1:07:32 teen romance that Arc that kind of started in the last episode, but it really kicked in in the last. Episode. Now, it is like in full swing. It's in full swing, but it's also, like you said, they're both, even though they go through a lot. They're both very mature, which is very like unheard of in high school. Think about my relationships that I thought were serious, and I'm like, oh my God, absolutely embarrassing. And I feel like they actually really like manage, even though they go through a lot of like bumps. They're very mature about it. So yeah,

1:08:02 as of now, they've been very good to each other Stan, rule of God who doesn't though, song of the week. Song of the week. I mean, I like the credits, the Labyrinth on, we discovered which will plug on our Spotify playlist. But by the way, I haven't linked that. Yeah, I will. I'm working on it. Cool. Despite not playing any episode. I'm going to choose Shook Ones Part to its Bob. It's a New York City like hip-hop classic from the 90s. Great. They should have pulled up. It's fucking, does it not? It doesn't even play in the credits. No, damn,

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